Ben Owen

I mean, I talked to Aaron a lot about it because it ate me alive, dude. It ate me alive for a long time.

Probably should. It's one of those things that kind of blocked out until I started telling him my story, you know? It's just, it hurts. I can't go back and change that. Do you think you'll talk about it now? I think I need to. I think I need to. I think I needed to a long fucking time ago, too. How will you bring it up? Oh, I got a really good excuse now. Hey, Mom, guess what?

Probably should. It's one of those things that kind of blocked out until I started telling him my story, you know? It's just, it hurts. I can't go back and change that. Do you think you'll talk about it now? I think I need to. I think I need to. I think I needed to a long fucking time ago, too. How will you bring it up? Oh, I got a really good excuse now. Hey, Mom, guess what?

Probably should. It's one of those things that kind of blocked out until I started telling him my story, you know? It's just, it hurts. I can't go back and change that. Do you think you'll talk about it now? I think I need to. I think I need to. I think I needed to a long fucking time ago, too. How will you bring it up? Oh, I got a really good excuse now. Hey, Mom, guess what?

All that slip on the Sean Ryan show, we should talk about this before it airs. Yeah. I know, so I guess it wasn't entirely true. We did talk about it once and my mom told me that she went inside with Amber and Amber was much further along than she would have been if it was mine. Now I don't know if my mom told me that to make me feel better or to make herself feel better or if that's reality.

All that slip on the Sean Ryan show, we should talk about this before it airs. Yeah. I know, so I guess it wasn't entirely true. We did talk about it once and my mom told me that she went inside with Amber and Amber was much further along than she would have been if it was mine. Now I don't know if my mom told me that to make me feel better or to make herself feel better or if that's reality.

All that slip on the Sean Ryan show, we should talk about this before it airs. Yeah. I know, so I guess it wasn't entirely true. We did talk about it once and my mom told me that she went inside with Amber and Amber was much further along than she would have been if it was mine. Now I don't know if my mom told me that to make me feel better or to make herself feel better or if that's reality.

And I doubt very much that Amber's alive for me to track down and find out. So I had forgotten that. We did talk about that.

And I doubt very much that Amber's alive for me to track down and find out. So I had forgotten that. We did talk about that.

And I doubt very much that Amber's alive for me to track down and find out. So I had forgotten that. We did talk about that.

Oddly enough, that ex that I went nuts over hit me up on LinkedIn like two months ago. I guess it was a year ago. She said, hey, I'm getting divorced. What are you doing? I was like, I am not getting divorced, and you can get out of my fucking DMs. I've had a few exes pull that. It'll pop up, tell them they're getting divorced. Hell, even Aaron. Anyway.

Oddly enough, that ex that I went nuts over hit me up on LinkedIn like two months ago. I guess it was a year ago. She said, hey, I'm getting divorced. What are you doing? I was like, I am not getting divorced, and you can get out of my fucking DMs. I've had a few exes pull that. It'll pop up, tell them they're getting divorced. Hell, even Aaron. Anyway.

Oddly enough, that ex that I went nuts over hit me up on LinkedIn like two months ago. I guess it was a year ago. She said, hey, I'm getting divorced. What are you doing? I was like, I am not getting divorced, and you can get out of my fucking DMs. I've had a few exes pull that. It'll pop up, tell them they're getting divorced. Hell, even Aaron. Anyway.

It does a lot. I used to get drunk about that a lot. But I think part of me was using it as an excuse. It does bother me. I can tell. But I would take any excuse I could just to not have to be responsible for my behavior. And I think we run into that with a lot of addicts and alcoholics, especially in the veteran community. And that's maybe a controversial topic.

It does a lot. I used to get drunk about that a lot. But I think part of me was using it as an excuse. It does bother me. I can tell. But I would take any excuse I could just to not have to be responsible for my behavior. And I think we run into that with a lot of addicts and alcoholics, especially in the veteran community. And that's maybe a controversial topic.

It does a lot. I used to get drunk about that a lot. But I think part of me was using it as an excuse. It does bother me. I can tell. But I would take any excuse I could just to not have to be responsible for my behavior. And I think we run into that with a lot of addicts and alcoholics, especially in the veteran community. And that's maybe a controversial topic.

But I think in society's efforts to understand, especially what combat vets have gone through, we might have incentivized some of them to adopt a victim mentality.

But I think in society's efforts to understand, especially what combat vets have gone through, we might have incentivized some of them to adopt a victim mentality.

But I think in society's efforts to understand, especially what combat vets have gone through, we might have incentivized some of them to adopt a victim mentality.

Well, and I think for most people that would be okay, but when you're dealing with an addict or an alcoholic, victims don't recover. Victims die. And that's the stark truth. And so I don't know what the answer is to that, and that's a rabbit hole I just took us on, but it's a fact, man. You know, we're trying to get... Anyway. Keep going.