Ben Owen

Well, and I think for most people that would be okay, but when you're dealing with an addict or an alcoholic, victims don't recover. Victims die. And that's the stark truth. And so I don't know what the answer is to that, and that's a rabbit hole I just took us on, but it's a fact, man. You know, we're trying to get... Anyway. Keep going.

Well, and I think for most people that would be okay, but when you're dealing with an addict or an alcoholic, victims don't recover. Victims die. And that's the stark truth. And so I don't know what the answer is to that, and that's a rabbit hole I just took us on, but it's a fact, man. You know, we're trying to get... Anyway. Keep going.

We're trying to get vets who are battling alcoholism and addiction out of the gutter and to take responsibility for their lives. I'm going to preface this with I don't know what the answer is, but I do know what part of the problem is. And we have all of these veteran-specific recovery groups and these veteran-specific rehabs. These are great. Somebody's getting paid out the ass to make that.

We're trying to get vets who are battling alcoholism and addiction out of the gutter and to take responsibility for their lives. I'm going to preface this with I don't know what the answer is, but I do know what part of the problem is. And we have all of these veteran-specific recovery groups and these veteran-specific rehabs. These are great. Somebody's getting paid out the ass to make that.

We're trying to get vets who are battling alcoholism and addiction out of the gutter and to take responsibility for their lives. I'm going to preface this with I don't know what the answer is, but I do know what part of the problem is. And we have all of these veteran-specific recovery groups and these veteran-specific rehabs. These are great. Somebody's getting paid out the ass to make that.

And the only way they stay open is if they keep convincing vets they're going to recover different and keep getting vets into their programs. Veterans, especially combat veterans, do need special treatment when it comes to certain things. You know, when you're talking about combat trauma, moral injury, yeah, yeah, that is something very niche and you need specific help from veterans with that.

And the only way they stay open is if they keep convincing vets they're going to recover different and keep getting vets into their programs. Veterans, especially combat veterans, do need special treatment when it comes to certain things. You know, when you're talking about combat trauma, moral injury, yeah, yeah, that is something very niche and you need specific help from veterans with that.

And the only way they stay open is if they keep convincing vets they're going to recover different and keep getting vets into their programs. Veterans, especially combat veterans, do need special treatment when it comes to certain things. You know, when you're talking about combat trauma, moral injury, yeah, yeah, that is something very niche and you need specific help from veterans with that.

But when we're talking about alcoholism and addiction, bro, you recover just like everybody else does. The same 12 steps that have worked for 90 years are going to work for you too. You just got to work them. And not everybody has to go through 12 steps. Plenty of people get sober without that stuff. But it's the ones that think that they're in the room, as we call it, terminally unique.

But when we're talking about alcoholism and addiction, bro, you recover just like everybody else does. The same 12 steps that have worked for 90 years are going to work for you too. You just got to work them. And not everybody has to go through 12 steps. Plenty of people get sober without that stuff. But it's the ones that think that they're in the room, as we call it, terminally unique.

But when we're talking about alcoholism and addiction, bro, you recover just like everybody else does. The same 12 steps that have worked for 90 years are going to work for you too. You just got to work them. And not everybody has to go through 12 steps. Plenty of people get sober without that stuff. But it's the ones that think that they're in the room, as we call it, terminally unique.

And it is terminal. If you think you're special and different than another addict or alcoholic, the chances of you being able to lean on their experience, strength, and hope to get better, it's cut infinitesimally small because you're nullifying their experience and thinking it can't help you just because they don't have some of the other experiences you have.

And it is terminal. If you think you're special and different than another addict or alcoholic, the chances of you being able to lean on their experience, strength, and hope to get better, it's cut infinitesimally small because you're nullifying their experience and thinking it can't help you just because they don't have some of the other experiences you have.

And it is terminal. If you think you're special and different than another addict or alcoholic, the chances of you being able to lean on their experience, strength, and hope to get better, it's cut infinitesimally small because you're nullifying their experience and thinking it can't help you just because they don't have some of the other experiences you have.

And I don't know that I'm the right guy to take that conversation to the masses because I'm barely even a veteran. And I'm definitely not a combat veteran. But I'm just speaking from experience. We've seen this time and again with vets that want to hold on to that, what makes them special. And they are special. They're less than 1% of the population. They're special.

And I don't know that I'm the right guy to take that conversation to the masses because I'm barely even a veteran. And I'm definitely not a combat veteran. But I'm just speaking from experience. We've seen this time and again with vets that want to hold on to that, what makes them special. And they are special. They're less than 1% of the population. They're special.

And I don't know that I'm the right guy to take that conversation to the masses because I'm barely even a veteran. And I'm definitely not a combat veteran. But I'm just speaking from experience. We've seen this time and again with vets that want to hold on to that, what makes them special. And they are special. They're less than 1% of the population. They're special.

But when it comes to getting off dope or putting down a bottle, no, you can't be special in that regard.

But when it comes to getting off dope or putting down a bottle, no, you can't be special in that regard.

But when it comes to getting off dope or putting down a bottle, no, you can't be special in that regard.