Ben Owen
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Podcast Appearances
You know I'm kind of a lot to deal with, right? So I had this fear that I wouldn't find love again, and I've got a terrifying fear of being alone too. So I wasn't convinced that Jess is who I'm going to go be in love with. It just convinced me that I am able to be happy in the presence of somebody else.
You know I'm kind of a lot to deal with, right? So I had this fear that I wouldn't find love again, and I've got a terrifying fear of being alone too. So I wasn't convinced that Jess is who I'm going to go be in love with. It just convinced me that I am able to be happy in the presence of somebody else.
You know I'm kind of a lot to deal with, right? So I had this fear that I wouldn't find love again, and I've got a terrifying fear of being alone too. So I wasn't convinced that Jess is who I'm going to go be in love with. It just convinced me that I am able to be happy in the presence of somebody else.
And so when I decided I was going to move out and move in with Thomas and take him up on that offer, Jess went with me. Now, we're still just friends. We're literally sleeping in the same bed and still just friends, which I know sounds crazy. I tried to kiss her one time. She cried. That was interesting. The next day, she kissed me. And then, you know, from there on, things were physical.
And so when I decided I was going to move out and move in with Thomas and take him up on that offer, Jess went with me. Now, we're still just friends. We're literally sleeping in the same bed and still just friends, which I know sounds crazy. I tried to kiss her one time. She cried. That was interesting. The next day, she kissed me. And then, you know, from there on, things were physical.
And so when I decided I was going to move out and move in with Thomas and take him up on that offer, Jess went with me. Now, we're still just friends. We're literally sleeping in the same bed and still just friends, which I know sounds crazy. I tried to kiss her one time. She cried. That was interesting. The next day, she kissed me. And then, you know, from there on, things were physical.
But this is like months went in that gap. So then, you know, I told Erin, like, let's go ahead and do this divorce. I'm moving on, which is what she had told me to do to begin with. And so she was like, OK, neither of us wanted it, but it's what needs to happen, that kind of thing. And, um, Jess and I pretty much moved into Thomas's house and started building the life together.
But this is like months went in that gap. So then, you know, I told Erin, like, let's go ahead and do this divorce. I'm moving on, which is what she had told me to do to begin with. And so she was like, OK, neither of us wanted it, but it's what needs to happen, that kind of thing. And, um, Jess and I pretty much moved into Thomas's house and started building the life together.
But this is like months went in that gap. So then, you know, I told Erin, like, let's go ahead and do this divorce. I'm moving on, which is what she had told me to do to begin with. And so she was like, OK, neither of us wanted it, but it's what needs to happen, that kind of thing. And, um, Jess and I pretty much moved into Thomas's house and started building the life together.
Uh, like we were going to start brush fire and black rifle and retec in a garage behind his house. We're going to start the businesses back over. And we did. We were like, we actually did. And we're running an econ business out of his garage. July, I think comes around and, you know, Jess had met all the kids at this point. Um, all the kids love her. Uh, her daughter loved me. Um,
Uh, like we were going to start brush fire and black rifle and retec in a garage behind his house. We're going to start the businesses back over. And we did. We were like, we actually did. And we're running an econ business out of his garage. July, I think comes around and, you know, Jess had met all the kids at this point. Um, all the kids love her. Uh, her daughter loved me. Um,
Uh, like we were going to start brush fire and black rifle and retec in a garage behind his house. We're going to start the businesses back over. And we did. We were like, we actually did. And we're running an econ business out of his garage. July, I think comes around and, you know, Jess had met all the kids at this point. Um, all the kids love her. Uh, her daughter loved me. Um,
Now, we haven't told Aaron that we're an item. And so that was a big landmine we were waiting on. And it ended about like you can imagine it would.
Now, we haven't told Aaron that we're an item. And so that was a big landmine we were waiting on. And it ended about like you can imagine it would.
Now, we haven't told Aaron that we're an item. And so that was a big landmine we were waiting on. And it ended about like you can imagine it would.
Okay. All right. So I'm just going to preface that. All right. We've come a long way since then. I've grown a lot as a human being. I was still sleeping with Aaron. And so when she found out I was sleeping with Jess, she sat Jess down and said, hey, just so you're aware, I'm still sleeping with him too. And Jess acted like she didn't care. Yeah. But in reality, it ripped her guts out.
Okay. All right. So I'm just going to preface that. All right. We've come a long way since then. I've grown a lot as a human being. I was still sleeping with Aaron. And so when she found out I was sleeping with Jess, she sat Jess down and said, hey, just so you're aware, I'm still sleeping with him too. And Jess acted like she didn't care. Yeah. But in reality, it ripped her guts out.
Okay. All right. So I'm just going to preface that. All right. We've come a long way since then. I've grown a lot as a human being. I was still sleeping with Aaron. And so when she found out I was sleeping with Jess, she sat Jess down and said, hey, just so you're aware, I'm still sleeping with him too. And Jess acted like she didn't care. Yeah. But in reality, it ripped her guts out.
right before the turning point she had mentioned you woke up in a with blood everywhere so what was that well to this day we don't know um i woke up in the empty lot next to 1428 woodward street which is a very significant address that's the house that she was describing it's full of bullet holes where you know we've had friends die in that house friend shot in that house uh I had disappeared.
right before the turning point she had mentioned you woke up in a with blood everywhere so what was that well to this day we don't know um i woke up in the empty lot next to 1428 woodward street which is a very significant address that's the house that she was describing it's full of bullet holes where you know we've had friends die in that house friend shot in that house uh I had disappeared.