Ben Rhodes

And, you know, I think pre-Trump,

The American people were also got really fed up to a feeling like they were lied to by their government when it came to wars with Iraq or with Afghanistan.

I mean, I'm sorry, but for 20 years we kept being told that we were like winning hearts and minds and that things were working, you know, when realistically, no, they weren't at all.

But now it's just the lies seem so much more in your face.

It's all of the above, Ben, right?

It's because we felt like it.

It's essentially what it comes down to.

I think the part that really upsets me is that, you know, it's people's lives are at stake.

A lot of people, yeah.

War is not a game.

There are already 13 U.S.

service members who have been killed, around 300, last I checked, who have been injured.

And now the New York Times reported that we have over 50,000 troops currently in the Middle East.

That's because that's 10,000 more than we usually have in the region.

That's because we've sent more there.

In addition to the 2,000 paratroopers from the 82nd Airborne Division that were sent last week, several hundred special operations forces, that's Army Rangers and Navy SEALs, have been deployed.

And the Wall Street Journal reported that Trump is considering sending another 10,000 troops, which would likely include infantry, armored vehicles.

and logistics support.

I mean, you and Tommy have spoken about some of this already on the show.

I just want to go over some of it again, right?