Ben Rhodes

Or it's like go into a cafe and ask if you can use their internet to call your mom.

You have to wonder how long that can go on.

But just to your point, there was a recent poll.

by Levada, which is a polling organization there, and Novaya Gazeta newspaper, they found that three quarters of respondents said that tiredness of war described the mood in the country.

And there was a survey that was done.

This was like a government-sanctioned survey, so it's interesting, but they said that internet restrictions triggered anger

in 46% of teenagers, crying in 15%, confusion or irritation in 14%.

This is probably like bad translations, and I didn't read the Russian version.

But so overall, 83% of respondents reacted negatively, and that's amongst teenagers.

They didn't ask the adults, understandably, because I think it's easy to be like, oh, the teens can't live without their web.

But you have to wonder.

Eventually, this is the one that could kind of backfire.

I was thinking about that a lot yesterday.

No, I was thinking about that a lot too, because again, I was relating it back to like Trump and just how still so many Trump supporters kind of just believe in everything he does, you know, and it becomes this kind of like cult celebrity worship around one figure.

And Putin has that too.

And Putin has that too.

And so does like, you know, so do so many of the autocratic leaders, but they don't have your best interest in mind.

If these are people, if these are people who,

uh, would stay in power forever if they could, you know, they don't have your best interest in mind, which is what they're doing.

Exactly.