Ben Rhodes

traditional way.

So it was not just journalists exposing them, not just activists, but it was me, one journalist and another colleague from civil society who had the press conference.

And we told, hey, like this is happening.

These guys are here.

And why they met Janša, who is paying them and what the people that are paying them want from Slovenia.

And this is how the whole journey of one week of craziness started.

Janša's first reaction was that he doesn't know who Black Cube is.

Then his second reaction was that they need the monument because they're exposing corruption.

The third reaction was that he will sue me because I'm saying that he's working with them.

And after Slovenian national security forces

said publicly that they did an investigation and that they were really at Janša's party, he finally admitted he knows them.

And this is when the story started to unfold.

And it's the biggest scandal in Slovenian history.

And it's like the biggest...

attempt to influence our elections, which is actually really dumb.

You know, I think Janša would win like so easily if he wouldn't do that kind of bad shit that he was doing.

He would just need a positive agenda.

People were quite disappointed with the government that we had and wanted to change.

And I think what fucked him up was that he's actually an evil guy who used even more evil guys to help him in Slovenia.

And he was not ready that a group of people will expose them.