Ben Rhodes

Good on Ro Khanna for tabling this resolution.

But to the people who are telling us, oh, we're working it through the process.

Well, you just proved the point that if you really cared about this thing, you would have fought like hell to get a vote on this before Trump actually bombed the country.

It kind of speaks to how Congress has been absent on this thing that they're going to have to vote after.

I want to pick out some of the people who've been good, and I'm not going to be able to name check everybody.

But like Tim Kaine and Chris Van Hollen in the Senate- And long-term consistent, both of them, about war powers.

And not just war powers, though.

As diverse people as Tim Kaine, Chris Van Hollen, and AOC had different components where they're like, it's illegal, it's unnecessary, they lied about the reasons to do it, and it ignores the lessons of history.

of regime change wars in the Middle East.

So that's an objection on policy, process, history, all of it.

That's the kind of case you can make.

Jason Crow, I think, made a very powerful case as a veteran where he's like, not only is this not what the American people want, this doesn't lower prices, but time and again, working class people have been screwed because they have to foot the bill for these wars by fighting in them or paying the taxes for them.

You know, so there's that kind of populist message that is important.

It's not just like politics.

It's true.

You know, it is fundamentally true.

And so I think no defensiveness.

The process is one piece of a much bigger picture here as to why this is wrong.

And I think Democrats have to be willing to make that argument.

You know, it's interesting to me, Tommy.