Ben Rhodes

Their HR departments, the recruiters, that works.

Going after their money works better than anything else.

So complicating the business side of the business where we have some skill and not just us, like other regulators, other governments have skills at doing that kind of work.

That does work.

It's boring.

It's not as exciting as putting a, you know, launching a rocket and flying

and blowing up a you know a drug site but the truth is they're in this for business and if they're the I'd say actually one of the real risks is I let's say that I don't think that they will manage to significantly reduce the supply of drugs moving into the United States but if they do

The businesses will turn to other markets.

And just as they're doing, frankly, Asia and Europe are booming for the cocaine trap.

And we're awash in more cocaine than we've ever seen.

Like we're at historically high levels of cocaine production.

That's not coming to the U.S.

or at least not in vast quantities.

It's mostly going to Europe and Asia.

Um, and when, if that doesn't work for them, they'll turn to other crimes.

I mean, that's, they're a business, uh, and they will adjust.

And that means that we have to be ready for that kind of adjustment.

Maybe they turned more to fraud, uh, uh, and, or, I mean, crypto has been a godsend for organized crime.

Crypto has made it so much cheaper for them to handle the cash into the business, so much easier for them to integrate their, and to launder their cash.

Um, that has also changed the equation significantly.