Ben Rhodes

It tells you a lot about how they operate.

Yeah.

You covered the bad part of the operation.

I guess the other piece I'd say is that sometimes it gets cited because the aftermath went pretty well.

They kind of had an election, new government there.

But Panama is much smaller than Venezuela.

Way smaller.

And that's where it doesn't hold.

Venezuela is a country of 30 million people, massive geography.

So

And replicating a political transition in a bigger, much more complex country with like an ideologically entrenched regime is a much, much larger task.

And Trump, one night raid is not going to transform Venezuela.

You know, like that's what's so maddening about this in the same way that in Panama, like, you know, we had more of a capacity to do that because we're playing on a smaller field.

Yeah, no, I'll keep it.

I mean, there's so much there.

I know.

And I do want to say just for the YouTube viewers, Lindsey Graham's face, each time Trump threatens to depose another government, it looks like he just took a bump of cocaine.

And actually, when he says Cuba, he's like, ah, like he literally looks like a jolt went through him or something.

So there's a lot there.

Congratulations.