Ben Rhodes

They need to know that the regime can't sweep it under the rug.

Sometimes you can do certain things like help provide internet access into a country.

But ultimately, it's up to the people of the country itself to change the place.

And that's what most protesters will tell you they want to do themselves.

Israel bombing them is not necessarily going to help them deal with this situation.

Yeah, no, there's plenty of lessons from the last 25 years, and Trump is probably not trying to learn any of them.

Well, I'm very pleased to be joined by Congressman Joaquin Castro, who represents the 20th District of Texas down there in San Antonio.

Wonderful place.

He's the ranking member of the Western Hemisphere Subcommittee on the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

So he's the most senior House Democrat on these issues.

He's also a member of the House Intelligence Committee.

So he's looking at this from multiple directions.

Congressman, thanks so much for joining us.

I do just want to start, actually, by saying...

After the tremendous New York Knicks victory in the NBA Cup, your San Antonio Spurs ripped my heart out on Christmas Day and sent the Knicks spiraling.

No, no.

I remember that was the David Robinson, Tim Duncan.

Well, anyway, those are better days.

We're here to talk about grimmer news.

But look, you've been one of the most outspoken Democrats about what Trump's been doing in the Caribbean and in the lead up to the attack on Venezuela.