Ben Rhodes

And if you have a final thought on this.

The media coverage, some of it's very good, but some of it is just, what are we doing here, people?

I know.

You had people credibly referring to the Israeli statement that this was like a preemptive strike, like preemptive.

What?

What are we preempting?

That's Iraq war language.

It's almost like they were trolling the US media and just being a stenographer for this fucking bullshit.

Yeah.

Yeah, good to see you, Rachel.

Well, you're exactly right, Rachel.

I mean, you and I have been talking about Iran for over 15 years, I think.

And this was always a scenario that people were concerned about in terms of where conflict between the United States and Iran could go.

This is not a limited strike on nuclear targets.

This is not intended to kind of coerce the Iranian government into some negotiation.

Trump made clear in his words, and they're making clear in their targets, that this is an effort to remove the Iranian regime.

What is astonishing to me is not only is this illegal, but it's totally unnecessary.

The Iranian regime posed no greater threat to the United States yesterday than it did two years ago or four years ago or five years ago.

If anything, it posed less of a threat and was involved in negotiations on the issue that the United States has always seen.

as the most important security interest that we have, which is the nuclear program.