Ben van Kerkwyk

It is 100% a human tendency to renovate and restore all of these, to reuse these sites.

It is, but we're renovating it and restoring it to use it as a tourist attraction, like the Romans renovated and restored it to use as a ceremonial center.

I have a problem.

Yes, that was one of my problems.

They were talking about restoring the middle pyramid, like the third pyramid, like the Menkaure Pyramid, the small one.

It's small.

It's monstrous.

But it has these granite casing stones, right?

And the last of the top four or five courses are still there, but it was at least 15, 16 courses of granite.

And there's just all this granite, these massive granite blocks and rubble.

And...

Mustafa Waziri, who was at the time the head of the Department of Antiquities, was talking about, we're going to rebuild it.

We're going to put it back together.

And I know this, and I'm like, please no, because... What an asshole.

Well, he did something cool, which was he excavated in front of it.

He did show that the courses keep going down.

But then he's like, we're going to restore it.

I'm like, dude, that would use concrete.

It would be a facsimile of what it once was.

Is he still around?