Chapter 1: What mysteries of the Sphinx are explored in this episode?
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Showing by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day! Ben? So last time you were on, we barely scratched the surface of all the things that we wanted to talk about, so immediately we were like, we gotta do another one quick. Because you wanted to talk about the Sphinx. The Sphinx, yes. Yeah, we were on, we got into the, well, the Labyrinth was kind of the big... Labyrinth is nuts.
I still haven't been able to get over it. The 40-meter metallic shape. Tic-tac shape. Tic-tac shape thing. Yeah. That's in the ground.
Like, what is that? Well, I hope we'll find out. I mean, I don't know. It's the wheels do turn a little slowly, but the point of that was to try and drive some awareness. Maybe we'll get... some sort of angel investor in there to go and look at it and solve the problem, do something. Someone needs to talk to Elon. Yeah, maybe. I'm not the guy.
I talk to him too much as it is. He's too busy. But someone who can annoy him. He's solving other problems. Yeah. Or maybe Bezos would like to be the first guy to get in there. Someone has to get in there. You have to figure out what that thing is. That's crazy. This might be one of the biggest mysteries in the entire human civilization record.
Yeah. Who's the director that went to the bottom of the earth? Oh, Cameron. Cameron. I mean, he likes going places that nobody's gone before. They do a whole get there. Maybe someone should do it.
They just I don't think enough people know for a lot of people know that we're listening to this podcast, but not enough people that would do something that can do something. You know what I mean? It's like we reach a lot of knuckleheads with some wide variety of people.
But the percentage of people that have the resources to make something happen, they have to work something out with the Egyptian government. Right. So they have to do something with those dams.
Yes. Well, you don't have – no, I don't think it takes the dams. You would have to remediate the water on the site, at least like somehow box it out, right? You've got to drain – you'd have to drain this massive area. Or at least if you were targeted enough, you might be able to drain a smaller area to then excavate in that area.
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Chapter 2: What is the significance of the labyrinth in ancient Egypt?
If I was a president, that would be my number one priority.
You know? Yeah, it has the potential. I think there's been a little bit more of this from Egypt. I guess the establishment there, they seem a little more willing to engage in some of the mystery. I genuinely do think that discoveries like these can only help and boost tourists. What they want is to bring people in.
It will bring way more. Could you imagine if they actually figure out a way to drain all the water out of the labyrinth? They give you a tour and show you the spaceship. How much are you paying to see the spaceship? Bro, I'm paying a ton of money to go see that spaceship.
That's a special permission. That's the way we do. They're very good at that. There's a lot of places you can now go in Egypt that are these special permissions. It's thousands of dollars, but we go.
They would make so much money. They could charge like 10 grand. They could charge like a lot of money just to go look at the spaceship.
Might, yeah.
Might be like Mecca. Like Mecca for UFO dorks.
It would be insane. Who knows? Well, the guy did say, too, it didn't seem like any metal that he'd seen before. He couldn't identify what type of metal it was.
Because it's alien.
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Chapter 3: How does the discovery of underground structures challenge our understanding of history?
That was the fear. The fear is if I am a self-professed expert with an institution behind me with a nice name, and then all of a sudden some fucking asshole with an Australian accent comes along who's a tech guy who becomes a YouTuber because he watched some asshole's podcast when he was younger. Yeah.
Yep, pretty much. That's it.
This is true. But it's you and Graham and Jimmy Corsetti and all these other amazing people. And you guys are – you're showing the world that there's another side to a lot of these stories and it's a legitimate side. It's not just a legitimate – it's an unfathomable side. When you're looking at some of the stuff like Baalbek, you're looking at those stones.
There's unfathomable things that no one is – no one is saying they're unfathomable. No one is saying – We don't know. Everyone is saying, don't worry about it.
We got it all figured out. Like, that's crazy. I agree. I think embracing them, and I think I've made this point before, but it's the nature of the discourse that's changed that has forced, I think, a stronger reaction from the establishment.
The general public views things differently now.
Well, the general public's involved in the discussion now. If you go back more than 60, 70 years, I mean, the general public didn't have access to this information. They were... I mean, these discussions only happen in societies and in universities.
But with the rise of firstly alternative authors and then the Internet, now everybody's got a chance to have a platform and a set of ears to hear this information. And it becomes more popular. Guys like you have had a huge impact on the popularity of these topics. And that's, I think, what is threatening.
I think they've always been popular. The problem is they haven't been legitimized. Like, these ideas have always been popular. It's just nobody gets – it's like there's a food that you want that no one's serving. You know what I mean? That's what it's like. It's not like it wasn't popular. Like, I'm not unique in my interest in ancient Egypt or in ancient civilizations.
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Chapter 4: What implications do these findings have for future archaeological explorations?
Turns out there's almost an endless number of conveniently dated limestone slabs all around the world. They're tombstones in cemeteries, right? So they get dated, they get cut, they get inscribed with the date when it was put up. And then so you can measure it and you can come back over whatever decades and measure erosion.
And so how long does it take for this face of this limestone erosion to recede?
This is the nutty stuff.
Yeah.
And because we're assuming that unless something happened to the outside of that, that this was at one point in time flat and smooth.
100% because there are still blocks that are protected. So a lot of this has been rebuilt. This is tricky to see. So you can actually see that the less eroded sections are actually modern restorations because this is so eroded that it's falling apart. Right. And this isn't even the exterior of the structure. This is the interior core masonry. All of this was also fabricated.
for God knows how many thousands of years, encased in granite.
It also points to a trend. It points to a pattern that when human beings find ancient things, they do renovations to try to keep them. Oh, yeah. Which is one of the things that's been over and over and over again. We've talked about that. There's so many structures that seem like there's multiple timelines working on the same exact ground.
It is 100% a human tendency to renovate and restore all of these, to reuse these sites.
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Chapter 5: What is the significance of Earth's shape and its measurement?
We deviate from being a perfect sphere because – and this is, thank Christ, because it's like that rotation that – the oblate spheroid nature of the Earth that the –
um what's it called the the spin the um i won't die these the the spin motion of the earth essentially like these the like a dryer some reason i can't think of the word uh it's it's flattening our tops a little bit and we bulge a little bit at the center around the equator right So it's like that spin force is making us bulge a bit.
So what it means is that if you measure the Earth this way, like north to south around and then east to west, it's going to be slightly longer east to west. How slight? I think it's something like 70 or 80 – no, 40 miles I think is the difference, something like that. Maybe that's the radius difference. But it's – I think, yeah, radius or diameter might be 30 or 40 miles difference.
It's just this – it is this slight equatorial bulge. And what it means is that – You know, when you draw latitude and longitude lines on the planet, and latitude being north-south and longitude being east-west, if you get down to the equator, now obviously the shapes of them change as you go up towards the poles, but the latitude lines are straight. I saw this recently.
I don't know how accurate it is. It says it's accurate. That's Earth without water? Without water. That's nuts. Yeah. Rocky little ball, isn't it? Bro, that's crazy. Yeah, some of those oceans are deep. Yeah, you think?
Yeah.
Jeez. That's cool.
That's bananas.
That almost looks exaggerated to me, that a little bit.
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Chapter 6: How are ancient structures like the Great Pyramid related to Earth's measurements?
This shape arises from the centrifugal. That's the word I was looking for. There it is. Force of the Earth's rotation, which inflates the equator by an additional 21 kilometers compared to the polar diameter. Interestingly, the geoid is used in GPS navigation and geodesy to precisely measure elevations above sea levels as oceans fluctuate. Follow this uneven surface.
Imagine if you shrank the earth to the size of a basketball. The geoid's irregularities would be smaller than the roughness of the orange skin. Wow. Of an orange skin, yet still impact our daily lives. Wow.
Yeah, so it must be a little exaggerated because I think that's clearly rougher than a...
orange than the rough that's clearly thicker than the roughness of an orange skin but yes yeah that's an exact it gives us an example but it so yeah so we're a little little bulgy around the middle a little flatter on top so when you get down to latitude and longitude at the equator right so the at the equator what if you draw that cube one degree
of latitude and one degree of longitude, it's not a perfect cube, okay? So it's a little bit further east to west than it is north to south. So if you cut that down into like 60 seconds of latitude and longitude, it's a smaller little square, but same proportions, you have the same ratio. And if you actually take the Great Pyramid, so the thing to understand about the Great Pyramid
is that it sits on a socle. I don't know if I've talked about this before, but so we know because we have casing stones, we have that 51 degrees, 51 minutes angle of these casing stones. So we were able to really act and we have a few of those still around the base from where they fell off.
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Chapter 7: What evidence suggests ancient civilizations had advanced knowledge?
So from that, we can determine the height and we also have this perimeter length using the casing stones.
pretty very accurately this survey and now those casing stones it doesn't sit direct on the bedrock the pyramid actually sits on top of a 55 centimeter socle so it's this it's this little platform that sticks it sticks out about this much and it's 55 centimeters high and it's like sticks out so you have the casing stones you have this little socle that it sits on so you have these two methods of measuring the pyramid you can measure the perimeter length around the casing stones or you can measure the perimeter length around the socle socle's slightly larger
And the funny thing is, is if you get down to one quarter of one second of latitude and longitude at the equator... the longitude is exactly within an inch or two the perimeter length of the socle, and the latitude, the north-south, is the perimeter length of the pyramid. So it's encoding the geodetic shape of the Earth.
The ratio of latitude to longitude is encoded incredibly accurately in these perimeter lengths on the pyramid. And that's just... It's just kind of mind-boggling. Well, so this would be the skeptic reductionist's answer to this stuff. You have to, right? You say, well, you're just playing with numbers. It's like, well, it's...
The numbers, none of those things, anyone can check that data for themselves. Like the 43,200 to 1 ratio of the pyramid, the fact that that's the number of seconds in 12 hours of the day. There's so many. I mean, this, by the way, 432 turns up all over the place. The Kali Yuga is said to be 43,200 years old. The radius of the sun is 432,000 miles long.
The king's list from the Sumerians is a total of 432,000 years with one king reigning for 43,200 years. So this 432 is one of those...
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Chapter 8: How do modern perspectives challenge traditional views on ancient architecture?
One of those sacred geometry numbers that keeps turning up again and again. But what's always been fascinating to me in the geodetic information encoded in the Great Pyramid is like you have to understand the shape and size of the Earth to get that ratio so accurately embedded in that monument. And we weren't able to do that.
basically until really recently with satellite servers, but we certainly weren't able to measure longitude even until the turn of the 18th century, like James Cook's second voyage of discovery. We couldn't measure, we couldn't accurately figure out where we were on those east to west traverses. Accurately reflecting longitude in the pyramid, it's astonishing.
It's one of those things that also relates to ancient maps, having accurate coastlines with longitude on them, but What seems clear is that somebody at some point in the past had very accurate knowledge, not only of cosmic cycles, but also of the shape and size of the Earth itself. Like in terms of they surveyed it, they understood its shape.
They understood the ratio of latitude to longitude on the planet. And it's all encoded in this monument. And it's just kind of scratching the surface on what's encoded in their Great Pyramid. But, I mean, the numbers are all there. You can add these up.
Have you ever had a debate with anybody that thinks that this is all coincidence and that you could take these numbers and just kind of monkey around with them and make any kind of equation you want if you just draw arbitrary distances between certain things? No. Because some people do believe that, right?
Yeah. I mean, so I think there's a difference between when you talk about numbers versus ratios. Right. Once you get to ratios, then it doesn't matter how you measure them. It doesn't matter if you measure them in mosquito dicks or inches or whatever, right? It's all centimeters. So ratios are one thing. Numbers, there is a lot.
I mean, the whole system of measurement, how we measure time, the imperial system of measurement, where the mile comes from, all of that stuff does have these deep roots in sacred geometry and basically cosmic. And that's, again, I think all pointing towards a common... or a common set of knowledge that came from it, but I've not debated somebody about this.
I don't know that you... I mean, you can't really question the numbers, but there's some incredible... just, I guess, coincidences that are in this whole system that do point towards like, I mean, they get really crazy. So here's another one, which I just, this one just pickles my noodle. It's so, you know, we know that I've said this before.
I think that the sun is, you know, the moon's 400 times smaller than the sun and it's the sun's 400 times further away. So you get this, that's how we get total solar eclipses. That's really nice. But, There's also another sacred number encoded in their ratios relative to their diameters in the distance from Earth that's the same between the moon and the sun, and that's 108.
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