Ben van Kerkwyk

And realizing that there is strength in seeking help.

It's not a weakness to take these things.

And these things are not drugs in the sense of something that allows you to escape reality.

They allow you to see reality through a completely different lens and that can heal you.

And this is not something that has been a narrative before.

This narrative is very recent.

This narrative, particularly among right-wing people, among conservative people, among disciplined people, hardworking, disciplined people.

Now they're realizing like this is a tool that's been denied us because of a corrupt government.

A corrupt government that was seeking to silence the civil rights movement and the anti-war movement in the 1970s.

That's in the 1960s.

This was what this was all about.

And we are still dealing with this shit 60 years later, which is really crazy.

It is crazy.

It's fucking crazy.

It's so crazy because we know the facts now.

We know what started it.

We know who was involved.

We know the conversations that they had, why they did it in the first place.

And yet the public narrative is still the same.

The public narrative is still drug takers or undisciplined losers who are trying to escape reality.