Ben van Kerkwyk

That's how they got money.

They were selling alcohol.

I know you're getting actual real alcohol.

Yeah.

Yes.

And I think education, what you just said, is a huge part of it.

And to let people understand like, hey, everyone knows there's giant problems with alcohol use.

There's alcoholism, there's liver failure, there's a host of different diseases that come from being an alcoholic.

And then there's also operating motor vehicles when you're drunk and drunk driving kills a ton of people every year.

And also a bunch of violent acts that get...

perpetrated by people that are drunk.

There's a lot of things wrong with alcohol, but yet we allow alcohol.

You know, and alcohol is one of the worst drugs.

It's one of the worst drugs for you physically.

It's one of the only drugs that if you become addicted to it, you can't quit cold turkey or you'll fucking die.

Well, I think the mushroom one is the easiest one because of the fact that it genuinely can't kill people.

Cocaine is a lot harder sell because also like I don't necessarily think it's good for you.

But I know people that have done pure cocaine that really enjoyed the experience and didn't get addicted to it.

So I don't I don't I can't speak on that.

I just think that things that are physically addictive that have been known to ruin your life are things you should probably avoid.