Ben van Kerkwyk

Well, cigarette smoking in particular.

Because the problem isn't really the nicotine, which we've found to be.

That's right.

Yeah, it's like nicotine actually has health benefits to it, which sounds crazy to people.

It's a neuroprotectant.

It actually stopped people from getting COVID.

So there's a lot of weird stuff with the compound nicotine.

Yeah.

But then there's the delivery method.

And it's not even just like...

It's hard to know what's true or what's not true, but I'm sure you saw that Russell Crowe movie, The Insider.

I haven't.

It's a great movie, but it's about these companies that added chemicals to cigarettes to make them far more addictive.

And he was a whistleblower.

He was a chemist that was working at this company.

Russell Crowe was playing this doctor who was a real guy whose life was threatened because he exposed that these companies had put a bunch of different chemicals into cigarettes to make them highly addictive, much more addictive than just plain regular tobacco smoking.

Well, that's the problem is that the companies that were getting sued, after it was determined that cigarette smoking does cause cancer, cigarettes are addictive, once they lost a bunch of money, they went out and bought all the processed food companies.

And now they made those more addictive.

And so now, like, you know, they even openly flaunted, I bet you can't eat one chip.

I mean, that's the thing.