Ben van Kerkwyk

You've got to expand something like that.

So it's the way it's approached.

It's the way these problems are approached and that they need new solutions, solutions that are preventative and that enforce the sense of community and help law enforcement officers ingratiate themselves with these people and be a part of the community instead of just being a person who comes to lock them up.

Yeah.

Well said.

That might be a good way to end this.

Tell people how they can get a hold of you, social media, like where you are.

Spell their last name because they're not going to be able to get that right.

Okay, good luck with the amount of emails you're going to get after this.

All right.

Let's do it.

Give me some time to get back to you.

All right.

Well, thanks, brother.

I appreciate you.

I appreciate your perspective, the fact that you're willing to express it the way you do, and that you're willing to come on here and stick your neck out like this.

It means a lot.

That's awesome.

Shout out to Billy.

All right.