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Ben van Kerkwyk

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3884 total appearances

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

So in Egypt, you never want to underestimate what the dynastic Egyptians were capable of.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

They had this long civilization of 3,000 years.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

And they did some incredible work.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

So, you know, they're really good stonework.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

It gets the lines can get a little blurred.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

I mean, you still see the difference.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

But in Peru, it's different, particularly in the Sacred Valley.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

places like Tiwanaku in Bolivia.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

But there you have these very distinct lines, like in terms of technology and the stonework and the layering of the stonework in that place.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

I mean, typically it's mostly all attributed to the Inca, but the Inca were really only around for like maybe 300 years maximum.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

The Inca Empire was barely 100 years before the Spanish wiped them out in 1533.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

And so it's relatively young, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

So 1200 AD roughly to 1533.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

And they attribute most everything to the Inca.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

And you just look at it and go, this is not remotely possible.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

There's a huge difference.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

You see these three different layers of architecture.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

There's a guy in Peru that has been researching this stuff for 50 plus years, him and his father, Jesus Gamara, who has his classification system for the Inca.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

the architecture in Peru.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

So you have, he calls them Hanan Pacha, Uran Pacha, Ikun Pacha, the three levels.