Ben Williamson

And it's a picture of him taking a selfie with his shirt on his face that he got reprinted on another shirt.

And people are using it for all sorts of amazing and funny things.

Um, there are, I mean, that doesn't account for repeats and I mean, there's, there's some variation within those numbers, but that's, you know, like a low baseline.

Yeah.

I love the way you kind of reverse engineer and just kind of pull the covers off, off everyone you talk to.

We're north of there.

We're north of, we're north of your napkin math.

Okay, good.

No, that's pretty good.

I, if I need a forensic accountant, I love that.

Um, yeah, we actually, so we did a release on the initial raise.

Um, and I, yeah, so we raised one, one, two, five in the, in the first seed.

I have no idea.

Uh, good to great.

Um, you know, interestingly enough, like I don't,

I try and really learn from people.

I try not to put other CEOs kind of on a pedestal, but I do spend a lot of time looking into people that have had things that are relevant to where I'm at.

And, um, you know, Evan from Snapchat is someone that I, I've just kind of been paying attention to in terms of the way he approaches his product.

Um, you know, the, the road he took to get to where he is and what's most important to him at the company right now.

Um, you know, we're in LA, they're in LA.