Ben Wilson

But the truth is he's a top 0.00001% conversationalist. And the same is true of Jordi and Coogan that like they're really talented and they're actually so talented that it can sometimes hide just how talented they are. And so people think they can do things that they can't do.

But the truth is he's a top 0.00001% conversationalist. And the same is true of Jordi and Coogan that like they're really talented and they're actually so talented that it can sometimes hide just how talented they are. And so people think they can do things that they can't do.

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human nature to want to conform and to want to be part of consensus and a group and to want to be led and if you're like that you should not be a founder I think that's true what do you but there now there's a lot of status with being a founder which there didn't used to be but now there is so how like I find it's a tricky thing a lot with people who are like I want to be a founder and

human nature to want to conform and to want to be part of consensus and a group and to want to be led and if you're like that you should not be a founder I think that's true what do you but there now there's a lot of status with being a founder which there didn't used to be but now there is so how like I find it's a tricky thing a lot with people who are like I want to be a founder and

But you can just tell in their disposition, it's like, no, you don't.

But you can just tell in their disposition, it's like, no, you don't.

You mentioned rule number two. What's rule number one of the center family?

You mentioned rule number two. What's rule number one of the center family?

So you mentioned Djokovic and you've done a few founders episodes on people who are not strictly founders of businesses, right? So you've done Winston Churchill. You've done Napoleon. Who else have you done that's not strictly a business?

So you mentioned Djokovic and you've done a few founders episodes on people who are not strictly founders of businesses, right? So you've done Winston Churchill. You've done Napoleon. Who else have you done that's not strictly a business?

I did Michael Jordan. I've done Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Tiger Woods. Yeah. Yeah. Have you done Da Vinci? Yeah. Episode 15, but it's not good. Well, the reason, because you talked about like these people, these are the same personality types, conquerors and founders. And I have found, you know, as I've done a bunch of these episodes, a lot of them have very similar personality types.

I did Michael Jordan. I've done Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Tiger Woods. Yeah. Yeah. Have you done Da Vinci? Yeah. Episode 15, but it's not good. Well, the reason, because you talked about like these people, these are the same personality types, conquerors and founders. And I have found, you know, as I've done a bunch of these episodes, a lot of them have very similar personality types.

Da Vinci was the first one I read where I was like, Now, this is different. One of these things is not like the others. This is a brain that I don't even know what to do with. Your brain functions differently than anyone I've read about. What did you think made it... Give me an example. Or elaborate on that. So, for example... Like what we were just talking about.

Da Vinci was the first one I read where I was like, Now, this is different. One of these things is not like the others. This is a brain that I don't even know what to do with. Your brain functions differently than anyone I've read about. What did you think made it... Give me an example. Or elaborate on that. So, for example... Like what we were just talking about.