Ben Wilson

He was so relentlessly curious that there's no way he could have done the same thing for 30 years straight. Right. Yeah. I actually couldn't see him really being... You could see him being a successful founder just because he's so damn smart. He's so smart. But he could never be a great founder like a Steve Jobs because he had too much curiosity and not enough focus.

He was so relentlessly curious that there's no way he could have done the same thing for 30 years straight. Right. Yeah. I actually couldn't see him really being... You could see him being a successful founder just because he's so damn smart. He's so smart. But he could never be a great founder like a Steve Jobs because he had too much curiosity and not enough focus.

One of my favorite parts of the life of Edison is really early on, he's a telegraph operator. He's actually still working, but he's

One of my favorite parts of the life of Edison is really early on, he's a telegraph operator. He's actually still working, but he's

inventing at the same time and he's totally obsessed with inventing and his family like is worried about him because he's like not bathing regularly and he's just like not sleeping and he's totally haggard and he's like selling his possessions in order to get more materials to invent with and it just dawned on me like wow this person is an addict he's an actual addict like if you substituted inventing with just

inventing at the same time and he's totally obsessed with inventing and his family like is worried about him because he's like not bathing regularly and he's just like not sleeping and he's totally haggard and he's like selling his possessions in order to get more materials to invent with and it just dawned on me like wow this person is an addict he's an actual addict like if you substituted inventing with just

meth or heroin or anything else, I can be very clear what he is. It just happens to be that he's addicted to something that's very productive. But it's probably not, like, actually a well-adjusted person from that regard. Like, do you think it's possible to be a great, great founder and be just normal and well-adjusted?

meth or heroin or anything else, I can be very clear what he is. It just happens to be that he's addicted to something that's very productive. But it's probably not, like, actually a well-adjusted person from that regard. Like, do you think it's possible to be a great, great founder and be just normal and well-adjusted?

I think you're a nice person. I don't think you're a normal person. Okay.

I think you're a nice person. I don't think you're a normal person. Okay.

Do you, do you like being, well, first of all, I guess, how famous are you? How famous are you? How often do you get recognized if you're out in public?

Do you, do you like being, well, first of all, I guess, how famous are you? How famous are you? How often do you get recognized if you're out in public?

The Acquired guys had a big New York Times article about them last year, I think. Have you had anything like that yet? No. Interesting. No, no.

The Acquired guys had a big New York Times article about them last year, I think. Have you had anything like that yet? No. Interesting. No, no.

Just never would be into this stuff. It's interesting. I like, I guess I started asking about fame a little bit just because it's, I forget sometimes because in my world, like you're pretty famous of like the people I interact with every day on Twitter, like of the people that I associate with every, every day that I mostly talk to, I read their stuff. I'm talking like,

Just never would be into this stuff. It's interesting. I like, I guess I started asking about fame a little bit just because it's, I forget sometimes because in my world, like you're pretty famous of like the people I interact with every day on Twitter, like of the people that I associate with every, every day that I mostly talk to, I read their stuff. I'm talking like,

90 something percent of them know who you are. You're famous in that, in that group.

90 something percent of them know who you are. You're famous in that, in that group.

What about like, I mean, so like basketball, you like basketball. You used to like to watch basketball. You don't really watch basketball anymore.

What about like, I mean, so like basketball, you like basketball. You used to like to watch basketball. You don't really watch basketball anymore.