Ben Wizner

Yes.

Of the platforms.

We said he's the president.

What he does is newsworthy.

We're not better off if we get a sanitized version of him.

We're better off if we get the real version of him.

This is information we need about him to make decisions.

To make decisions a few years later about whether to elect him.

Trump was deplatformed from these major platforms for years.

And then he rode back into office.

It didn't exactly work.

So yes, I do think that on the whole, we're better off seeing the devil with his horns.

In 2023, we represented the National Rifle Association in a First Amendment case in the U.S.

Supreme Court, which we won 9-0, by the way.

But this was not a popular position among what you might say, call the progressive constituency and many of our members.

But it's something that we need to do.

I mean, we think these rights are indivisible.

If you won't defend them for everyone, they won't exist for everyone.

And we genuinely believe in freedom of conscience.

Today, I put some skin in the game.