Ben Zhao

No, I mean, all of our grants are quite public. And I'm pretty sure that I'm not the most well-funded professor in the department, but I run a pretty regular lab. We write a few grants, but it's nothing earth-shaking. It's just what we turn our time towards. That's all. There's very little that drives me these days outside of just wanting my students to succeed.

I don't have the pressures of needing to establish a reputation or explain to colleagues who I am and why I do what I do. So in that sense, I almost don't care. In terms of self-interest, none of these products have any... money attached to them in any way, shape or form. And I've tried very, very hard to keep it that way. There's no startup. There's no hidden profit motive or revenue here.

I don't have the pressures of needing to establish a reputation or explain to colleagues who I am and why I do what I do. So in that sense, I almost don't care. In terms of self-interest, none of these products have any... money attached to them in any way, shape or form. And I've tried very, very hard to keep it that way. There's no startup. There's no hidden profit motive or revenue here.

I don't have the pressures of needing to establish a reputation or explain to colleagues who I am and why I do what I do. So in that sense, I almost don't care. In terms of self-interest, none of these products have any... money attached to them in any way, shape or form. And I've tried very, very hard to keep it that way. There's no startup. There's no hidden profit motive or revenue here.

So that simplifies things for me.

So that simplifies things for me.

So that simplifies things for me.

No. The university always encourages entrepreneurship. They always encourage licensing, but they certainly have no control over what we do or don't do with our technology. This is sort of the reality of economics and academic research. We as a lab have a stream of PhD students that come through and we train them. They do research along the way and then they graduate and then they leave.

No. The university always encourages entrepreneurship. They always encourage licensing, but they certainly have no control over what we do or don't do with our technology. This is sort of the reality of economics and academic research. We as a lab have a stream of PhD students that come through and we train them. They do research along the way and then they graduate and then they leave.

No. The university always encourages entrepreneurship. They always encourage licensing, but they certainly have no control over what we do or don't do with our technology. This is sort of the reality of economics and academic research. We as a lab have a stream of PhD students that come through and we train them. They do research along the way and then they graduate and then they leave.

For things like Fox, where, you know, this was the idea. Here's the tool. Here's some code. We put that out there. But ultimately, we don't expect to be maintaining that software for years to come. We just don't have the resources. That sounds like a shame if you come up with a good tool.

For things like Fox, where, you know, this was the idea. Here's the tool. Here's some code. We put that out there. But ultimately, we don't expect to be maintaining that software for years to come. We just don't have the resources. That sounds like a shame if you come up with a good tool.

For things like Fox, where, you know, this was the idea. Here's the tool. Here's some code. We put that out there. But ultimately, we don't expect to be maintaining that software for years to come. We just don't have the resources. That sounds like a shame if you come up with a good tool.

Well, the idea behind academic research is always that if you have the good ideas and you demonstrate it, then someone else will carry it across the finish line, whether that's a startup or a research lab elsewhere. But somebody with resources who sees that need and understands it will go ahead and produce that physical tool or make that software and actually maintain it.

Well, the idea behind academic research is always that if you have the good ideas and you demonstrate it, then someone else will carry it across the finish line, whether that's a startup or a research lab elsewhere. But somebody with resources who sees that need and understands it will go ahead and produce that physical tool or make that software and actually maintain it.

Well, the idea behind academic research is always that if you have the good ideas and you demonstrate it, then someone else will carry it across the finish line, whether that's a startup or a research lab elsewhere. But somebody with resources who sees that need and understands it will go ahead and produce that physical tool or make that software and actually maintain it.

You know, at a high level, I think that's great. I think if we get to that point, that will be a very welcome problem to have. We are in the process of exploring perhaps what a nonprofit organization would look like, because that would sort of make some of these questions transparent.

You know, at a high level, I think that's great. I think if we get to that point, that will be a very welcome problem to have. We are in the process of exploring perhaps what a nonprofit organization would look like, because that would sort of make some of these questions transparent.

You know, at a high level, I think that's great. I think if we get to that point, that will be a very welcome problem to have. We are in the process of exploring perhaps what a nonprofit organization would look like, because that would sort of make some of these questions transparent.

Well, yeah, very different type of nonprofit, I would argue. I'm more interested in being just the first person to walk down a particular path and encouraging others to follow. So I would love it if we were not the only technology in the space. Every time I see one of these other research papers that works to protect human creatives, I applaud all that.