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Ben Zweig

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

I think you're largely right that the job market is not very good right now.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

So hiring is at a low.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

Also, attrition is at a low.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

So people are not leaving jobs as much, even despite increases in layoffs.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

But, you know, separations from jobs, you know, are not happening to the same degree as they used to be.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

And that is particularly affecting young workers.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

But what's interesting about this is I think you kind of touched upon this idea

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

Brynjolfsson paper, you know, and others out of Stanford that highlight that there is an interaction between entry-level workers and AI exposure.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

And that's research that we've done at Revelio as well early on.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

But I think, you know, the researchers have gone a little deeper into it.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

And I think it is credible that AI seems to be affecting entry-level work.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

But notably, it's not causing technological unemployment like was predicted by Osborne and Frey or was predicted 100 years ago from John Maynard Keynes.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

You know, in 1930, he wrote, you know, economic possibilities for our grandchildren and predicted in 100 years we'd all be working two day work weeks.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

I think it was 15 hours.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

So it was a 15 hour, 15 hour week.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

It hasn't quite been 100 years, so maybe in 2030 we'll see that he's right, but it doesn't look like he'll be right.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

So we're not seeing technological unemployment, but we are seeing decreases in demand for entry-level workers, and that is particularly concentrated among AI-exposed roles.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

I think you could say, oh, well, you know,

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

AI, you know, seems to be affecting the execution of tasks, which, you know, young people do and rather than the orchestration, which favors more senior workers, people with experience in management, because, you know, in the age of generative AI, we're essentially managing these bots to go and to go and do things and execute on some subtasks.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

And I think that that is a read.

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