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Ben Zweig

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

It's very tough to see that in the data.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

I mean, the team at Anthropic, they have a team of economists as well.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

They had published like what tasks are people using Claude for.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

So I think that's probably the best data we have on how people are using this technology and how that's evolving.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

I think you're right.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

As these systems become more kind of agentic, you know, it's less about doing a very precise task and maybe doing a collection of three or four things and stitch together the

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

There's some coordination of work tasks, you know, call it a process or something that they are then able to do.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

That's kind of, you know, what we're seeing in the data.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

You know, theoretically, you can think of a job as on the one hand, a collection of tasks.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

But on the other hand, you're not just executing tasks.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

You're also orchestrating between those tasks.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

You're also deciding what comes first, what comes second.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

How do these things fit into each other?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

You're playing the role of an orchestrator, of a coordinator.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

And that is still happening, probably happening more than ever.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

Because now there are some tasks or processes that interact with other things and maybe interact with people, maybe other systems, maybe other vendors or whatever it is.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

And that orchestration is becoming much, much more important.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

I think that is something that I would bet is probably a little bit related to this, you know, idea of favoring more senior employees.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

Yeah, no, I could see a world where even entry-level workers are kind of middle managers in a sense.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Where did all the entry-level jobs go? (With Revelio CEO Ben Zweig)

They have more orchestration of systems to do.