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Benedict Evans

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The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

I think Craig Federighi said in an interview after WWDC, like, we don't have a YouTube.

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

He didn't call it YouTube, but like, we don't have a YouTube, we don't have a car-showing service, we don't do grocery delivery.

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

We also don't have a chatbot.

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

Okay, that wasn't quite the question.

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

The question for Apple is how much would integrating an LLM into the operating system change the experience of what it is, potentially shifting the competitive balance with Pixel, which at the moment basically only gets bought by people who work for Google and people who work for the tech press and literally no one else buys Pixels.

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

Well, because Google doesn't want to compete with Samsung.

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

We could go down a whole smartphone industry rabbit hole.

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

There's this sort of question for Apple around, does this actually change the experience of what a smartphone is, what the ecosystem is?

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

Does it end up kind of getting Microsofted in the sense that you're going to still, for the time being, you're still going to buy a smartphone?

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

It's not at all apparent there's going to be another device.

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

And if there is, it's a long way away and it might be an Apple device as well.

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

But you're still going to buy a smartphone.

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

You're still going to buy the nice one with a good battery and the fast chip to run the AI models and the good screen and the best camera, which will still be an iPhone because Apple still has the best chip team and a whole bunch of other hardware advantages.

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

But everything you do on it will be from someone else.

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

And it won't be someone else in the sense that it's an app from the App Store.

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

It will be someone else in the sense that it's a model running in the cloud, which is what happened to Microsoft in the 2000s, which was everyone had to get on the Internet.

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

To get on the Internet, you needed a computer.

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

You weren't going to buy a Linux computer.

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

You probably wouldn't buy a Mac either.

The Knowledge Project
Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (Including You) | Benedict Evans

So everyone bought a Windows PC, but they were using it to do web stuff, not Microsoft stuff.