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Benjamin Felix

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The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

So for stocks, we use the inverse of the Shiller-Cape ratio.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

For bonds, we use the bond yield.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

That's one piece, the market-based expected return.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

And then we use what we call the equilibrium cost of capital, which is the very long-term return for that asset class.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

And for that, we use the Dimson-Mars-Daunton data that goes back to 1900.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

And then we combine them in different ways, depending on the asset class.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

For equities, we use 75% historical and 25% market-based expected return.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

So that's 75% world equity return from the Demis Damar Stanton data.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

We do adjust that for valuation changes.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

So if equity returns have been high recently because valuations have increased a lot, or if valuations have increased a lot and that's contributed to recent stock returns, we do adjust for that in that long-term measure.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

And I mean, likewise, if stock valuations plummeted all of a sudden and the historical return dropped, we would adjust for that valuation change.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

And then we combine that with 25% market-based expected return, which as I mentioned is the inverse of the Shiller CAPE.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

It's not

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

statistically robust, but we ran a bunch of regressions on how predictive has the Shiller Cape been historically for future returns.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

Statistician would probably mock us for our methodology on this specific part, but we figured that a 25% contribution from the market-based expected return was

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

roughly in line-ish approximately sort of with the historical predictive power of that metric.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

And then for fixed income, we do the inverse where it's 25% historical return and 75% the current yield to maturity on bonds.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

And again, that's because historically bond yields have been much more predictive of future realized returns than the CAPE has over future realized stock returns.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

But again, they're not perfect statistically derived numbers.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Market Simulations & Financial Planning | #411 (John Yang)

They're rough estimates that work well for doing our expected return estimates.