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Benjamin Felix

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The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

I think those flows are really what matter to index fund investors because even a small percentage change, if it's billions of dollars changing, moving from one equity to another, that's kind of what matters for the index funds who are being forced to buy and sell shares.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

I think there are probably some interesting tax considerations here too.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

I don't know enough about how exactly that would play out with US listed ETFs because they do have some mechanisms to reduce

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

tax, but this would be a lot of buying and selling.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

It'll be interesting to see how that plays out too.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

So just to recap, index funds, depending on the rules of the specific indices they track, may or may not invest in these mega IPOs.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

And even if they do, it's likely going to be at a weight reflecting their public float, unless we're talking about the NASDAQ 100, which as of recently would use its newly adopted float factor, which again is more conservative than their previous methodology of using the total market capitalization.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

So that's kind of where we're at.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

And the market changes.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Like it's not normal.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

So take the S&P 500.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Normally, a company that goes public, it wouldn't even be a consideration that that company may make it into the index because it wouldn't be big enough.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Like it's the 500 leading companies in the US.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Wow.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

A newly listed company is not going to fit that criteria.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

But now we're in a world where, okay, companies are staying private longer.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

They're going public when they're much bigger.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

I mean, if I'm S&P, yeah, I'd be considering making changes too.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

If you want to represent the 500 leading companies in the US market, well, just because it hasn't been listed long enough, I don't know if it makes sense to it.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

For sure.