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Benjamin Felix

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The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

There's a couple of things that I want to add here.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

One is I'd be very interested, Dan, to see the S&P TSX composite and capped composite side by side, but free float adjusted because S&P didn't start float adjusting their indexes until 2005, I believe.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

I could imagine that Nortel would have had a lot of closely held shares.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

They had a lot of shares in their pension plan, for example.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

I'd be interested anyway.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

I wonder how much free float adjustments mitigate that concentration risk in the index.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

That's my hunch because that was in late 90s that that index concentration got so serious in Canada.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

And I know that they changed to float adjusted weights in 2005.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

On the idea of changing index methodologies, that's a huge one.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

S&P in 2004, they announced that in 2005, I believe that they would start free floating.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Prior to that, they were not using free float weights.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

I found an article about this from 2004.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

It's all focused on

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

The sense of most index users is that float adjustment reduces the costs of running index funds and ETFs because stocks with less float and therefore less liquidity have lower weights in the index.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Index users also feel that basing the index on available shares instead of total shares means that the index is a better reflection of the market and through the market of the economy.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

It's actually super interesting.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

I wish I'd looked at this earlier.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

In an October 2003 concept paper prior to announcing the decision to move to float adjustment, S&P highlighted reasons against the switch.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

We looked at the academic and theoretical basis for indexing, but found no arguments for or against float adjustment, said Blitzer.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Side note, David Blitzer was an early guest on this podcast.