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Benjamin Felix

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The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

If an index did this, they'd have massive tracking error to the index.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

I mean, there wouldn't be an index fund basically at that point.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

And that tracking error would be sad.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

As listeners know, I'm a huge fan of index funds.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

But as listeners also know, we don't use them.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

The assets that I oversee at PWL, we use dimensional funds rather than index funds.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

I personally don't invest in market cap weighted index funds.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

And this is, I mean, there are a bunch of reasons for that, but this is one of them.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Dimensional waits six to 12 months after a company lists before considering including it in their portfolios.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Dimensional also intentionally tilts away from what I call the junk earlier that IPOs tend to behave like more generally.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

PWL uses dimensional funds, but they are not paying us to say this.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

I gain nothing from people using dimensional products.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

They have ETFs in the US and their competitor, Advantis, which I'll talk about in a second, has products in Canada.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

So I mean, this is not intended to be like a sales pitch.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

It's just, there's a company doing this a different way.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

So that's dimensional.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

They wait six to 12 months to include IPOs.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

It's more complicated than that because they also tilt toward smaller and lower price companies, which have in many cases, and particularly in the US, underperformed

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

So even if we can say, well, hey, Dimensional didn't pay the IPO inefficiency cost in the US market, at least they did underperform because they tilted away from the large stocks that did really well over the last 20 years.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Anyway, it's complicated.