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Benjamin Felix

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The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

You can see that, but it actually affects the structure of IPO deals.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

It's just crazy, these sort of second order effects of the growth of index funds.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Which is crazy.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

A big part of this topic and why it's so interesting is that there's been some speculation that, as I mentioned to S&P, and we know NASDAQ did change their rules.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

There are two ways you can interpret that.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

One way is that it's nefarious, in the case of NASDAQ at least, that they're changing their index rules so that their funds tracking their index, like the NASDAQ 100, will buy SpaceX stock.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

And that they're doing that to curry favor with Musk to get SpaceX to list on their exchange.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

So that's the sort of bad intent view.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

The noble intent view is that, well, these are massive companies.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

And again, why do indexes exist?

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

To represent the market.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Of course you want to have a massive company that has listed on the market, included in your index as soon as possible.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

So that's the noble intent view.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Anyway.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

VTI, which is the massive $2 trillion index fund that I mentioned earlier, that's a Vanguard US total market fund, it tracks the CRISP US total market index.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Now, CRISP is another index that adds eligible securities to the index within as few as five days for fast track entry.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Marco Salmon and his co-author in this paper show that the

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Expected index investor demand for IPO shares causes fast track IPOs to outperform their non-fast track counterparts by over five percentage points following their listing.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

So they list, they pop as tends to happen.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

So their price increases relative to their listing price, but the fast track inclusion stocks pop more.