Benji Naesen

No, I

Probably not Red Bull, because it's not Red Bull we're talking about, but you know what I mean, right?

He was already involved with the team's background in some sense, or at least the sponsor's background, I don't know.

But these are major changes, is the point I'm trying to make.

We are basically moving away from the Luka Gerçelena era of this team.

And that's been a long era because Andy Schleck becoming the CEO, for context, Andy Schleck was part of this Leper Trek team when this began back in the day.

And Luka was already the boss, if I'm pretty sure, when that story began.

So Andy Schleck was there at the start, is now at the end of this era coming in as the new CEO.

I don't really know what to think about all of this.

I've got a few takes on this.

To me, based on some stuff I've heard from behind the scenes, it looks a lot like Luka was being pushed out instead of handing over the leadership.

And that, on one end, feels wrong to me, but on the other end, I also have to take that little trek since the little takeover, or at least the little implementation,

has not really moved me in terms of the progression since little came on does that make sense but how much is that to blame towards luca versus towards the rest of the management i don't know yeah like is it luca's fault that our user crashed in pyrenees

I mean, it's more.

The overspending and transfer seasons at the start.

I can't think of that happening either.

They were pretty prevalent when it comes to the green jerseys and points classifications.

But that's not the same.

I agree with you there, but it's also a larger storyline of...

Red Bull and Little Trek both had the same kind of vibe for me in the last three years, where they're a team that was perhaps just above average in World Tour and is trying to become a super team.