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Berber Jin

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189 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

So some investors kind of acknowledged that it was very difficult for XAI to survive as an independent company.

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

In the long term, they'd either have to keep raising huge sums of money or get acquired by one of Elon's other businesses.

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

For a long time, XAI and XE was clear that their businesses were kind of intertwined, like they were sharing data center capacity and employees were moving between the two.

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

Grok, the XAI chatbot, was put on X as a product that people could use.

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

So he ended up merging those two businesses last spring, and a lot of people at the time saw it as a way to kind of fortify two struggling businesses in Elon's empire.

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

XAI can continue to do its AI research without having to worry that much about all these business questions around profitability and growing revenue because SpaceX is such a strong business and has such a strong financial profile.

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

There's an advantage to going out first.

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

If SpaceX has a huge IPO, and now I guess since SpaceX is an AI company, right, they get to raise a lot more money.

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

They get the benefit of the kind of halo and the attention around going public.

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

And it definitely, I think, puts more pressure on OpenAI and Anthropic.

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

So XAI shareholders are very happy.

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

I mean, I think for a long time, most XAI investors that you talk to, they know that this is the end goal, right?

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

Like, I think none of them, even before this was announced, expected XAI to be an independent company that went public.

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

And I mean, everyone was expecting the company to merge.

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

They're kind of working through the rationale, right, and trying to buy into Elon's vision.

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

But there's definitely more of a nervous and mixed reception amongst the SpaceX investor crowd.

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

They control the rocket launch business.

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

I mean, it's almost impossible to break into that market.

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

That's why SpaceX is so valuable.

The Journal.
Elon Musk’s $1.25 Trillion Megamerger

And it's kind of the crown jewel of Elon's empire.