Berly McCoy

Okay, so spoiler alert. If you want to try this, don't keep listening right now.

Okay, so spoiler alert. If you want to try this, don't keep listening right now.

What's the change?

What's the change?

What's the change?

Okay. And so in your book, you say this is an example of reconstructing the problem. You give the example of your book, of how you got stuck and how you got unstuck. What was that like, one? And what do you think other people could learn from that example?

Okay. And so in your book, you say this is an example of reconstructing the problem. You give the example of your book, of how you got stuck and how you got unstuck. What was that like, one? And what do you think other people could learn from that example?

Okay. And so in your book, you say this is an example of reconstructing the problem. You give the example of your book, of how you got stuck and how you got unstuck. What was that like, one? And what do you think other people could learn from that example?

Zorana, thank you so much for talking to me today about creativity. Thank you. Zorana's book, The Creativity Choice, The Science of Making Decisions to Turn Ideas into Actions, is out now. And shortwavers, thank you for listening. Make sure you never miss an episode by following us on your favorite podcast platform. It really helps our show.

Zorana, thank you so much for talking to me today about creativity. Thank you. Zorana's book, The Creativity Choice, The Science of Making Decisions to Turn Ideas into Actions, is out now. And shortwavers, thank you for listening. Make sure you never miss an episode by following us on your favorite podcast platform. It really helps our show.

Zorana, thank you so much for talking to me today about creativity. Thank you. Zorana's book, The Creativity Choice, The Science of Making Decisions to Turn Ideas into Actions, is out now. And shortwavers, thank you for listening. Make sure you never miss an episode by following us on your favorite podcast platform. It really helps our show.

And if you have a science question, send us an email at shortwave at npr.org. This episode was produced by Rachel Carlson, edited by our showrunner Rebecca Ramirez, and fact-checked by Tyler Jones. The audio engineer was Robert Rodriguez. Beth Donovan is our senior director, and Colin Campbell is our senior vice president of podcasting strategy. I'm Burleigh McCoy.

And if you have a science question, send us an email at shortwave at npr.org. This episode was produced by Rachel Carlson, edited by our showrunner Rebecca Ramirez, and fact-checked by Tyler Jones. The audio engineer was Robert Rodriguez. Beth Donovan is our senior director, and Colin Campbell is our senior vice president of podcasting strategy. I'm Burleigh McCoy.

And if you have a science question, send us an email at shortwave at npr.org. This episode was produced by Rachel Carlson, edited by our showrunner Rebecca Ramirez, and fact-checked by Tyler Jones. The audio engineer was Robert Rodriguez. Beth Donovan is our senior director, and Colin Campbell is our senior vice president of podcasting strategy. I'm Burleigh McCoy.

Thank you for listening to Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR.

Thank you for listening to Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR.

Thank you for listening to Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR.

You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. Hey, short wavers, producer Burleigh McCoy in the host chair today. So every couple of years when I was growing up in the suburbs of St. Louis, Missouri, my family and I would gather in our basement, not for a party or game night, but to take cover from a potential tornado. As a kid living around Tornado Alley, I thought this was normal.

You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. Hey, short wavers, producer Burleigh McCoy in the host chair today. So every couple of years when I was growing up in the suburbs of St. Louis, Missouri, my family and I would gather in our basement, not for a party or game night, but to take cover from a potential tornado. As a kid living around Tornado Alley, I thought this was normal.

You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. Hey, short wavers, producer Burleigh McCoy in the host chair today. So every couple of years when I was growing up in the suburbs of St. Louis, Missouri, my family and I would gather in our basement, not for a party or game night, but to take cover from a potential tornado. As a kid living around Tornado Alley, I thought this was normal.