Bernie Sanders

All right. So the first point you made is that it is important for us to do what the corporate media often doesn't do and take a look at what's going on around the rest of the world in many wealthy countries. You take what I consider to be maybe the most fundamental right, and that is healthcare, all right? So if you go out and poll people, and I do, is healthcare a human right?

All right. So the first point you made is that it is important for us to do what the corporate media often doesn't do and take a look at what's going on around the rest of the world in many wealthy countries. You take what I consider to be maybe the most fundamental right, and that is healthcare, all right? So if you go out and poll people, and I do, is healthcare a human right?

Should every American be entitled to healthcare, whether they're rich or poor, young or old? And you know what the American people say? They say, yeah. We do believe that. And yet you have, to your point, very few people in Congress, in the Democratic Party, in the Republican Party who really say, you know, health care is a human right.

Should every American be entitled to healthcare, whether they're rich or poor, young or old? And you know what the American people say? They say, yeah. We do believe that. And yet you have, to your point, very few people in Congress, in the Democratic Party, in the Republican Party who really say, you know, health care is a human right.

The function of health care should not be to make huge profits for the insurance companies and the drug companies, but to provide quality care to all people. Now, you know what? That's a hard thing to do for any country on Earth. No system is perfect. But we have got to establish the premise healthcare is a human right, not just a commodity for large corporations to make money from.

The function of health care should not be to make huge profits for the insurance companies and the drug companies, but to provide quality care to all people. Now, you know what? That's a hard thing to do for any country on Earth. No system is perfect. But we have got to establish the premise healthcare is a human right, not just a commodity for large corporations to make money from.

If you do that, if people understood that they lived in a society in which they had healthcare as a human right, that in itself, John, would be a profound transformation of people's attitude toward government. I cannot tell you, you know, having run for president, you hold a million meetings all over the country.

If you do that, if people understood that they lived in a society in which they had healthcare as a human right, that in itself, John, would be a profound transformation of people's attitude toward government. I cannot tell you, you know, having run for president, you hold a million meetings all over the country.

hearing the heartbreak of people who leave hospital hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt and they go bankrupt because they were dealing with cancer. Does anybody think that makes sense? All right. You know, we lose 60,000 people a year because they don't go to a doctor when they should. Meanwhile, we're spending twice as much per person on health care.

hearing the heartbreak of people who leave hospital hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt and they go bankrupt because they were dealing with cancer. Does anybody think that makes sense? All right. You know, we lose 60,000 people a year because they don't go to a doctor when they should. Meanwhile, we're spending twice as much per person on health care.

This is an issue we are not even discussing, let alone figuring out how we can go forward. So to answer your question, If government begins to deliver for people, they say, hey, you know what? Maybe democracy works. Maybe I'm going to get involved. If it doesn't, if it just delivers for the rich, who the hell cares? What do I need a democracy?

This is an issue we are not even discussing, let alone figuring out how we can go forward. So to answer your question, If government begins to deliver for people, they say, hey, you know what? Maybe democracy works. Maybe I'm going to get involved. If it doesn't, if it just delivers for the rich, who the hell cares? What do I need a democracy?

Don't pull the rug out here, Senator. Yeah, talk to me. Your basic premise is, of course, true.

Don't pull the rug out here, Senator. Yeah, talk to me. Your basic premise is, of course, true.

On the other hand, you have to appreciate, given the corruption, the broad corruption that exists here and the power of the drug companies, that it was a very significant achievement on the part of Congress and the Biden administration to at least do, start to do, what every other bloody country on earth is doing. So we spend zillions of dollars on prescription drugs.

On the other hand, you have to appreciate, given the corruption, the broad corruption that exists here and the power of the drug companies, that it was a very significant achievement on the part of Congress and the Biden administration to at least do, start to do, what every other bloody country on earth is doing. So we spend zillions of dollars on prescription drugs.

It doesn't take a genius to say, hey, drug companies, let's sit down and negotiate a good price. The Veterans Administration, by the way, has been doing that for decades. OK, every other country on Earth does it. It was a huge struggle. So the Biden administration deserves credit. But your point is Yeah, so what? We got insulin, good. How did we end up in that position?

It doesn't take a genius to say, hey, drug companies, let's sit down and negotiate a good price. The Veterans Administration, by the way, has been doing that for decades. OK, every other country on Earth does it. It was a huge struggle. So the Biden administration deserves credit. But your point is Yeah, so what? We got insulin, good. How did we end up in that position?

Yeah, all right, to your point, and this gets back to, I think, getting back to the campaign, not good enough to say, look, what we did, we got insulin, but by the way, a new cancer drug coming onto the market. You know what it's going to cost the year? Hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Yeah, all right, to your point, and this gets back to, I think, getting back to the campaign, not good enough to say, look, what we did, we got insulin, but by the way, a new cancer drug coming onto the market. You know what it's going to cost the year? Hundreds of thousands of dollars.