Bertie Gregory

Nature documentarians, you know, we're often accused of anthropomorphizing things, but our job is to connect people with the natural world.

So to a certain extent, you have to sort of make comparisons to our world to sort of get people engaged.

Right, so we feel connected.

underdog or whoever.

I think the other thing is when we're trying to get close to an animal without disturbing it, we want to film natural behavior.

So we want to make sure the animal either doesn't know that we're there or that it knows we're there and it's accepting of our presence.

And a big part of that is being able to read animal body language.

And just like we humans have a set of

body languages.

Lots of animals do.

I mean, we talked about crocodiles just before we started recording.

They have very little body language.

Their resting bitch face is very similar to their I love you face.

So let's park those.

But in the case of, say, sharks or wolves, they're a great one because they're

very closely related to our pet dogs.

So we're very good at, I think, naturally interpreting wild wolf body language.

But you know when we walk into a bar and we want to figure out where to sit, you look around and subconsciously you're analysing everyone's behaviour and you know if someone's bright red in the face and clenched

fist or whatever, stay away from them.

And then there's the smiley guy in the corner or whatever.