Bertie Gregory

For her whole life.

Well, that's a tough one because, you know, as a wildlife camera person, we are, you know, we can never get involved.

And so, you know, it's important to not to try to, I guess, we're normally told to not get emotionally.

So what I was going to say if I was allowed to finish was we are normally told to not get emotionally attached but often when you spend all day every day following an individual animal for you know a month or two and you know the stakes because you know it's cubs that it has to feed yeah

I feel like often people want to choose the side of the prey because that's the thing being attacked.

And I think that's often because, you know, prey is very cute.

But my point often is, well, okay, if we're going to play by those rules and based on cuteness, baby predators are usually the cutest animals.

Like a baby mountain lion.

Oh my God, they're so cute.

Yeah.

So yeah, I don't think that's good logic, but that's sort of a side note there.

But my point is with Pitaka, her life is incredibly hard, but she is so good at doing that.

She has mastered that.

She's like an Olympic athlete.

But bring it back to the wolves we talked about.

If you actually spend time with wolves in the wild, which I've been very lucky enough to have done, you very quickly realize that they are not these sort of mindless man-eating killers.

They have these amazing social systems.

And they are so stoked to be alive and in a pack.

And they love, oh my God, they love each other so much.

It is so lovely.