Bertie Gregory

You know, when like you have a dog and they do that, but there's like 10 of them and there's no humans and they're just having a great party with each other and sniffing each other and having an awesome time.

That's pickleball.

I mean, in the case of wolves, yeah.

I mean, conflict with livestock.

But I guess it comes back to that empathy of if we don't spend time with them documenting their lives, showing how amazing and awesome that they are, but they're not individuals, they're just wolves at a faraway place.

It's very easy for someone to go along and be shooting them and go, yeah, terrible, evil wolves.

Again, it's that...

It's a double-edged sword, right?

You need that view into their world.

Yeah, it's kind of fair.

I guess if you would like the context, I can make a shameless plug.

If you watch the whole episode, it's part of a series called Animals Up Close on Disney+.

You can meet Pataka.

You can see her cubs.

You can see the stakes, the challenges that she faces and why hunting guanaco is very challenging.

And far more often, the guanaco wins.

Or the guanaca wins far more often than not.

Most of the time the pumas fail.

They get bucked off and have terrible injuries.

Yeah, they've got the crazy neck dip.