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Exactly.

So we got to start with what we know and especially understand that we know very little.

We know less than we think we do.

But if you think about it, life also relies on all these rare elements and metals on this planet that is like, there's nothing for the universe.

It looks like it's just a waste, right?

Like something that you would not even consider as fat of the steak.

You know what I mean?

It's just like, sure, take it.

And then look what life did.

That's inspirational that, you know, again, it will assemble this insane, look at us, look at, you know, look at the world.

It will come out of like almost out of nothing for the planet, for the universe.

And that's what we study with the NASA center, MUSE, the Metal Utilization Center.

We are trying to understand how the oceanic content across billions of years have inspired organisms to do their thing.

We want to know how they competed against a certain metal.

Life is metal, right?

Life relies on metals.

Enzymes do their thing.

They are able to do all these crazy thermodynamic barrier breakings because they eat a lot of metal.

They depend on this.

And metal has to come from somewhere.