Beth Karas

You'll see in the trailer, one of the women, the victims, you know, her son died, says, I believe those are human ashes, just not my human ashes. Because there's some hardware in there, like somebody who maybe had a knee replacement or something, and her son didn't have any of that. She got someone else's ashes.

You'll see in the trailer, one of the women, the victims, you know, her son died, says, I believe those are human ashes, just not my human ashes. Because there's some hardware in there, like somebody who maybe had a knee replacement or something, and her son didn't have any of that. She got someone else's ashes.

But another person said she took a little bit of the ashes, put it in water, and it hardened. So cement dust. And there's a lot of cement dust found at the place. You've got to watch that one. That's episode four. Absolutely be watching that. And Jodi Hildebrandt, that's the curious case of the Mormon therapist. With Frankie. With Ruby Frankie.

But another person said she took a little bit of the ashes, put it in water, and it hardened. So cement dust. And there's a lot of cement dust found at the place. You've got to watch that one. That's episode four. Absolutely be watching that. And Jodi Hildebrandt, that's the curious case of the Mormon therapist. With Frankie. With Ruby Frankie.

But another person said she took a little bit of the ashes, put it in water, and it hardened. So cement dust. And there's a lot of cement dust found at the place. You've got to watch that one. That's episode four. Absolutely be watching that. And Jodi Hildebrandt, that's the curious case of the Mormon therapist. With Frankie. With Ruby Frankie.

But, you know, Ruby Frankie's story's been told, but we go in telling Jodi Hildebrandt, the therapist who met Ruby along the way, but she was like a marriage counseling therapist and was actually driving couples apart. On purpose? Yes. It sure seems like it. I mean, she's in prison today.

But, you know, Ruby Frankie's story's been told, but we go in telling Jodi Hildebrandt, the therapist who met Ruby along the way, but she was like a marriage counseling therapist and was actually driving couples apart. On purpose? Yes. It sure seems like it. I mean, she's in prison today.

But, you know, Ruby Frankie's story's been told, but we go in telling Jodi Hildebrandt, the therapist who met Ruby along the way, but she was like a marriage counseling therapist and was actually driving couples apart. On purpose? Yes. It sure seems like it. I mean, she's in prison today.

It sure seems like it because she was telling the women, of course, the religion does see adultery as bad as murder. And I guess masturbating and looking at porn is really right up there also. Very simple. And so some of these men were doing what's Quite natural. And their wives were icing them out because they had masturbated or looked at porn and admitted it. So that's an interesting story, too.

It sure seems like it because she was telling the women, of course, the religion does see adultery as bad as murder. And I guess masturbating and looking at porn is really right up there also. Very simple. And so some of these men were doing what's Quite natural. And their wives were icing them out because they had masturbated or looked at porn and admitted it. So that's an interesting story, too.

It sure seems like it because she was telling the women, of course, the religion does see adultery as bad as murder. And I guess masturbating and looking at porn is really right up there also. Very simple. And so some of these men were doing what's Quite natural. And their wives were icing them out because they had masturbated or looked at porn and admitted it. So that's an interesting story, too.

But that's the way in. But we also tell the Ruby Frankie and the child abuse story toward the second half.

But that's the way in. But we also tell the Ruby Frankie and the child abuse story toward the second half.

But that's the way in. But we also tell the Ruby Frankie and the child abuse story toward the second half.

I started following the Ruby Frankie story sort of early on. I didn't really know who she was outside of like one really viral TikTok. And so that's sort of where I did the deep dive. Once the allegations came out about what she was actually doing to her children, I couldn't watch it anymore. I couldn't do... I couldn't watch the TikToks. I didn't want to hear about... It literally broke me.

I started following the Ruby Frankie story sort of early on. I didn't really know who she was outside of like one really viral TikTok. And so that's sort of where I did the deep dive. Once the allegations came out about what she was actually doing to her children, I couldn't watch it anymore. I couldn't do... I couldn't watch the TikToks. I didn't want to hear about... It literally broke me.

I started following the Ruby Frankie story sort of early on. I didn't really know who she was outside of like one really viral TikTok. And so that's sort of where I did the deep dive. Once the allegations came out about what she was actually doing to her children, I couldn't watch it anymore. I couldn't do... I couldn't watch the TikToks. I didn't want to hear about... It literally broke me.

So I was like, I cannot get behind this. But I would be curious to know how Jodi Hildebrandt, how she got where she is. Yeah.

So I was like, I cannot get behind this. But I would be curious to know how Jodi Hildebrandt, how she got where she is. Yeah.

So I was like, I cannot get behind this. But I would be curious to know how Jodi Hildebrandt, how she got where she is. Yeah.