Beth Karas

So this is sort of Jodi's story, but Ruby is in it. Because once the two of them get together and they start their own YouTube page, and then... Ruby's younger children, two of her younger children, end up living with Jodi and they're abused. Right. And very, very severely abused. So like malnourished and tied up and sores and this and that.

So this is sort of Jodi's story, but Ruby is in it. Because once the two of them get together and they start their own YouTube page, and then... Ruby's younger children, two of her younger children, end up living with Jodi and they're abused. Right. And very, very severely abused. So like malnourished and tied up and sores and this and that.

So this is sort of Jodi's story, but Ruby is in it. Because once the two of them get together and they start their own YouTube page, and then... Ruby's younger children, two of her younger children, end up living with Jodi and they're abused. Right. And very, very severely abused. So like malnourished and tied up and sores and this and that.

I mean, and Ruby is aware of what was happening with her children. They're both in prison today.

I mean, and Ruby is aware of what was happening with her children. They're both in prison today.

I mean, and Ruby is aware of what was happening with her children. They're both in prison today.

Well, that's why I knew that. And I know that Sherry, Ruby's daughter, just wrote a book, a memoir, The House of My Mother, The House of My Mom, something like that. This kind of goes back to what I said about Two people willing to or being capable of murdering someone is the same sort of thing with Ruby and Jodi. How do you have two people willing to abuse a child? Like I just cannot fathom.

Well, that's why I knew that. And I know that Sherry, Ruby's daughter, just wrote a book, a memoir, The House of My Mother, The House of My Mom, something like that. This kind of goes back to what I said about Two people willing to or being capable of murdering someone is the same sort of thing with Ruby and Jodi. How do you have two people willing to abuse a child? Like I just cannot fathom.

Well, that's why I knew that. And I know that Sherry, Ruby's daughter, just wrote a book, a memoir, The House of My Mother, The House of My Mom, something like that. This kind of goes back to what I said about Two people willing to or being capable of murdering someone is the same sort of thing with Ruby and Jodi. How do you have two people willing to abuse a child? Like I just cannot fathom.

And not see it as abuse. Oh, they just didn't see it as abuse. They don't see what we saw. I can't wrap my head around that. Not that I expect it from men, but a mom, like a mother, like you birthed this child. Do you know what I mean? That's heartbreaking. Yes. That is absolutely heartbreaking.

And not see it as abuse. Oh, they just didn't see it as abuse. They don't see what we saw. I can't wrap my head around that. Not that I expect it from men, but a mom, like a mother, like you birthed this child. Do you know what I mean? That's heartbreaking. Yes. That is absolutely heartbreaking.

And not see it as abuse. Oh, they just didn't see it as abuse. They don't see what we saw. I can't wrap my head around that. Not that I expect it from men, but a mom, like a mother, like you birthed this child. Do you know what I mean? That's heartbreaking. Yes. That is absolutely heartbreaking.

So that is the fifth episode. Okay. And the last one is basically a cat cult. A woman who... is a self-proclaimed prophet and has a following. Small, but she has a following. She started in the Pacific Northwest. She's in the Tennessee area now, Tennessee, maybe Kentucky now. They've been moving around.

So that is the fifth episode. Okay. And the last one is basically a cat cult. A woman who... is a self-proclaimed prophet and has a following. Small, but she has a following. She started in the Pacific Northwest. She's in the Tennessee area now, Tennessee, maybe Kentucky now. They've been moving around.

So that is the fifth episode. Okay. And the last one is basically a cat cult. A woman who... is a self-proclaimed prophet and has a following. Small, but she has a following. She started in the Pacific Northwest. She's in the Tennessee area now, Tennessee, maybe Kentucky now. They've been moving around.

And she has people believing that cats are the vessel to the afterlife and that you have to take care of these cats. And her followers will adopt like 30 cats from a shelter. And you have to care for the cat before you care for yourself or your children or whatever. I mean, the cat comes first. And, you know, that's a lot of food at their own expense, you know.

And she has people believing that cats are the vessel to the afterlife and that you have to take care of these cats. And her followers will adopt like 30 cats from a shelter. And you have to care for the cat before you care for yourself or your children or whatever. I mean, the cat comes first. And, you know, that's a lot of food at their own expense, you know.

And she has people believing that cats are the vessel to the afterlife and that you have to take care of these cats. And her followers will adopt like 30 cats from a shelter. And you have to care for the cat before you care for yourself or your children or whatever. I mean, the cat comes first. And, you know, that's a lot of food at their own expense, you know.

And it's smelly and it's just like – so that's one part of it. It's a cat cult. But there were also some pretty dark things that were happening because she, Cheryl Ruthven is her name, had been – a very conventional mother, wife, married to a man in the Pacific North, I think Oregon, Washington, Washington.

And it's smelly and it's just like – so that's one part of it. It's a cat cult. But there were also some pretty dark things that were happening because she, Cheryl Ruthven is her name, had been – a very conventional mother, wife, married to a man in the Pacific North, I think Oregon, Washington, Washington.