Beth Lyons

And Google, OpenAI, and Meta, I would assume, there were three who said, yeah, no, we'll do it.

Oh, no.

Yeah.

There's another claw that I saw today that is Droid Claw, and it is designed to run on your old Android phone.

So $50, $100 Android phone, run this on that.

There are a bunch of things that it can't do, but one of the things that it can do is use apps like scroll through.

Use apps like a human would use apps, taking screenshots when it needs to understand what it should do within the app, and then be able to do those things.

But OpenClaw is also open.

Couldn't you fork it or branch it?

Carl, I don't know which is different between those, but the one that gives you the full copy that you now have and you can do whatever you want with it, right?

No, I just meant, like, for Manus, it's not like... Oh, for Manus.

Cisco's saying you can speak to your phone and have it connect.

And isn't that what we do?

People use Telegram.

How is that?

Oh, I can run it through Telegram.

You could set up a personal Discord and message it on Discord, too.

Same kind of thing.

Same kind of eye roll from the secret...

You gotta read the chat.