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Beth Shapiro

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1835 total appearances

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

And brown bear boys would move onto the islands as the habitat got better, where they encountered these populations of polar bears that had been stranded there as the ice receded, pretty much.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

And so they hybridized there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

And all brown bears in North America today...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

have ancestry from that admixture with polar bears geez wow that's so fascinating yeah it's just like how we all have ancestry from mixing with neanderthals and is that from the german zoo because there's a couple of bears at it but that really looks like a hybrid doesn't it yeah it looks like there's a lot of traits of both of them yeah it's impressive

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

It's kind of that, but it's also that we haven't agreed, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

So there's this group of academic scientists who are trying to say, trying to grasp so tightly to this very precise definition of a species as having to do with DNA, how much DNA matches something else.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

But that is... And it's interesting.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

I think the reason that we keep having this conversation is because it's genuinely interesting to talk about species concepts.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

We have come up with, you know, dozens of different species concepts, and they're all for a particular purpose.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

You know, if I am...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

wanting to have a conversation about dinosaur fossils or anything that's a fossil, I'm going to use the morphological species concept because that's all I've got.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

I'm going to compare the shape of this bone with the shape of this bone, and if they're similar enough to my trained eye, I'm going to call that a species.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

I saw you had a bison priscus, I'm going to say, skull out there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

Yeah, step bison, bison priscus.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

Bison crassicornis, bison occidentalis, bison alaskensis, bison, I could go on forever I, you know, this is, the naming of bison was like sport in the 18th, 19th centuries, mostly 19th century.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

I don't think I've been to his.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

I didn't go with Ben, but I've been working up in that part of the world for 30 years.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

We spend a lot of time working at gold mines outside of Dawson City.