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Beth Shapiro

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

And I think this was a story that was broken by a guy at MIT Tech Review a couple of days before it was announced, but he thought that he was going to be able to announce this to great fanfare in front of a community that was going to celebrate him for having done this.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

And the story broke a few days early.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

But he had set this up, a whole PR thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

He had like YouTube videos that were ready to go to explain what he had done.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

He wasn't trying to do it in secret.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

He thought he was going to be a hero.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

But people were like, holy shit, dude, what the fuck?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

Like, no, we're not editing human germlines, the cells that will be passed on.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

to the next generation.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

There's still a moratorium against doing that work.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

The baby that was just born, for example, they didn't edit any of his cells that would get passed on to the next generation.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

It's only the cells in his body.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

So those edits will only ever live in him.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

And there's a difference between doing that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

And it's the second one that we're uncomfortable with.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

But it didn't end up even being the right gene.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

So the reason that this that he got whatever ethical permission he did in China to do this is because they were children that were born by IVF because the dad had AIDS.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

And so what they were trying to do was create what he claimed he was trying to do was create an environment where they would never accidentally get it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2338 - Beth Shapiro

I guess if there's blood.