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Exactly.

So you need a receiver, you need that push and pull and you need that tension and you need that fight between these systems so that you create energy and you channel that and you basically channelize that energy across enzymes or whatever is in the cell so that they bounce and push and pull and do their thing.

I mean, even if it is dormant, we will still be able to find it if it is there.

Because we have fermenters on this planet that are also quite lazy.

The voltage between the giver and receiver is pretty minimum.

They're really weird.

No, I mean, it is basically, if you're thinking about the ladder between the donor and the acceptor, fermenters, we want the ladder to be, if we draw a line between the donor and receiver, we want that line to be as steep as possible.

But when it comes to fermenters, you're getting almost a flat line.

It's the equal footing, but it still works.

So even though thermodynamically- Is this any slope at all?

hardly any I had not thought about that even though you know it is not by looking at it it's not energetically favorable like maybe a carbon fixer might be or a photosynthesis might be doing it is still doing its thing so what I'm saying is that dormancy or this kind of slow process will not get in the way we will take what we got let me get to you whatever the slope is whatever the slope is it's a bunny slope but we're taking it but yes metabolism absolutely important it's the energy it's the engine it's all about the battery right when it comes to life on this planet so we have to think about that

Absolutely.

I mean, you cannot just have a battery that's just sitting there, right?

The battery needs to produce another battery somehow.

Well, then it's not life.

It's just sort of a battery.

But then it's not life, though.

What do you mean?

How is it going to live?

It likely can assemble, but in order for at least our understanding of life, that memory of the information that assembled that metabolism, per se, it has to continue.