Bhaskar Sunkara

Yes.

A poor city and a rich city.

And Connecticut is great.

It's highly, highly underrated.

Both New Yorkers and people from Boston...

kind of have a colonial feeling about Connecticut where we make fun of it and we try to carve it up.

You know, the West belongs to New York, the East to Boston.

But, you know, I'm here for, you know, Connecticut nationalism.

I think it's a great place.

Yeah, well, I hate the no true Scotsman sort of response to this, which is, oh, that socialism is bad.

So it wasn't really socialism.

And my socialism is good.

So it is socialism.

But I think that socialism and communism share a common ancestor.

which is they both emerged out of the turmoil and development of late 19th century capitalism.

And the fact that there was all these workers' parties that were organizing across the capitalist world

So in Europe, for instance, you had this mass party called the German Social Democratic Party that became probably the most important, the most vibrant party in Germany in the 1880s and 1890s.

but they were locked out of power because Germany at the time was still mostly a Tarkic.

You know, it had a parliamentary democracy, but it was a very undemocratic democracy.

The Kaiser still ruled.