Big Jay Oakerson

Yeah.

Yeah, but that's how ghosts... You want those ghosts.

That's an old ghost.

Old timey ghost with chains and like a fucking... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Woo.

That's fine.

Sometimes a man's got to kill his family because of a ghost.

Did the guy actually kill his family there?

Well, the Conjuring, that was their story, right?

They were the ones who discovered the Amityville Horror House, the couple from the Conjuring.

Well, they say it's a true story.

Like weapons, the beginning of weapons, they were like, this is a true story.

It's like, is it though?

Was there a witch that came and possessed a bunch of children, and they all-

Yeah, the shows took a lot of, like, liberties with, like, rumors and shit, but it was... Oh, like him wearing dresses and jacking off and stuff like that?

No, like, some of the murders, like, he was never connected to all the murders that he did on the show.

Like, there was sort of, like, rumors.

Like, none of it, like... Like, even where he killed his brother, I guess.

Yeah, he didn't.

It was sort of like they kind of put two and two together and they just said he murdered his brother.