Bik Nazar

Well, is there also consideration because it wasn't just that they hired Patrick Alvin, who was first time GM, like all the people that were surrounded there, too, were also new on the role.

That was part of the Jim Rutherford appeal of here's the master mentor over it all to be someone that each department could lean upon as all these first time people were coming in.

Could you create a scenario where an assistant GM is an experienced person as well?

That you get an AGM that's previously been in a job and maybe isn't going to be someone who gets regularly considered in the future?

Is that... You know, experience doesn't necessarily need to be for the GM.

It could just be, can you have experience in the hockey ops?

of sequencing, right?

It's not just, oh, it's, we're hiring a GM first.

It does dependent,

which candidate you're hiring.

Because if it's an inexperienced person, because you couldn't get the experienced person, does that change the next dominoes?

But if you get a preferred experienced GM, is that someone that's going to graduate to the bigger role, right?

Like, Ryan Johnson's not graduating to the president role.

No.

But... And then it gets awkward if you... Again, for lack of better names, some of the experienced guys we've talked about, are they the ones that are more likely to graduate to a president's role?

Now, the questions there become...

is that person going to have their hands off on the hockey decision-making?

Because the way Jim Rutherford presented it is like the next general manager will have autonomy on hockey decisions.

Every time we start to sequence this out, I have to like take a second because my head is spinning.

But yes, if you were...