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And I would say by and large here recently, as far as like matching the market value or player comparables to what these players have done, there's been a pretty good alignment of getting the number pretty accurate to what the player should be getting.

And those are two different conversations.

There's the player evaluation aspect of, hey, is it worth giving this player the money?

But once you get to that decision, how do you come to the conclusion of what the player is worth?

And I think that part...

Okay, you know what?

I'll give you that one.

I should have phrased it as skaters.

But I do know that the people behind those decisions were very much more on... The total money of the Demko one made sense though, right?

If you were going to structure it as a three-year deal, it probably was going to be looking at $24 to $27 million.

And again, I'm sure there's people yelling at the computers or the radios right now saying like, what are you talking about?

They gave $93 million to Elias Pettersson.

It not working is different than was this the right amount of money at the time?

And at the time, you could build an argument that it should have been 12.4.

It helps that it felt like one of the worst-kept secrets in the NHL as well.

It felt like it was always going to get to this point.

So you mentioned like the home wins part of it, too.

And I do think like part of the conversation, like we've used the word culture so often and there's often a push pull is OK, does does winning define culture?

Does culture lead to winning?

And I think not just like the home wins is going to be important.