Bill Gates

over a hundred billion dollars. I mean, that, you know, what is that? And it's not, you know, you don't want to just give that to children and create some dynasty. That's not even a favorite to them. You want to give that back. So these are unprecedented fortunes.

And if you're a great innovator and you know how to gather scientists together and think about problems, then there are some government is risk averse. And particularly poor countries don't have that capacity to think about eradicating malaria or solving malnutrition. There is something that

And if you're a great innovator and you know how to gather scientists together and think about problems, then there are some government is risk averse. And particularly poor countries don't have that capacity to think about eradicating malaria or solving malnutrition. There is something that

Philanthropy can have these outsized results in terms of lives saved, almost like, you know, a great startup does on the side of innovation. So getting those minds to turn those capacities to equity, to the poorest, both inside the U.S. and abroad. Outside the U.S., you know, I feel that, you know, we've got the golden rule. We're supposed to care about people.

Philanthropy can have these outsized results in terms of lives saved, almost like, you know, a great startup does on the side of innovation. So getting those minds to turn those capacities to equity, to the poorest, both inside the U.S. and abroad. Outside the U.S., you know, I feel that, you know, we've got the golden rule. We're supposed to care about people.

There are times when it feels like sympathy for poor people outside the country is lower today than it's been. But I know that'll come back around because of the the moral logic there, I think, uh, I, I believe is, is, is very, very strong.

There are times when it feels like sympathy for poor people outside the country is lower today than it's been. But I know that'll come back around because of the the moral logic there, I think, uh, I, I believe is, is, is very, very strong.

And I, you know, I found it so fulfilling and I created a group called giving pledge of, of people who've, uh, committed to give the majority of their wealth away. And we learn from each other. Hopefully we inspire each other and hopefully we change the societal expectations that

And I, you know, I found it so fulfilling and I created a group called giving pledge of, of people who've, uh, committed to give the majority of their wealth away. And we learn from each other. Hopefully we inspire each other and hopefully we change the societal expectations that

if you have even a modest fortune, most of it should combine with your talents and make the world a bit more of a fair place.

if you have even a modest fortune, most of it should combine with your talents and make the world a bit more of a fair place.

Sadly, the wealth metric is an easier one to compute than the impact you've had philanthropically. And part of the beauty of philanthropy is there's many causes out there. You know, I've tried to think through, okay, you know, since we know how to save lives for $1,000 per life saved, wow, we better use this money as absolutely best we can. And I do think we're going to see a rise in philanthropy.

Sadly, the wealth metric is an easier one to compute than the impact you've had philanthropically. And part of the beauty of philanthropy is there's many causes out there. You know, I've tried to think through, okay, you know, since we know how to save lives for $1,000 per life saved, wow, we better use this money as absolutely best we can. And I do think we're going to see a rise in philanthropy.

I mean— You know, these fortunes are almost illegitimate unless they are in a very smart way given back. If it's consumption, if it's dynasty, I don't think society should feel that good about it. And, you know, I sat down with Bernie Saunders and he said, no, he would outlaw billionaires. I think that's a mistake. I think allowing in America in particular billionaires

I mean— You know, these fortunes are almost illegitimate unless they are in a very smart way given back. If it's consumption, if it's dynasty, I don't think society should feel that good about it. And, you know, I sat down with Bernie Saunders and he said, no, he would outlaw billionaires. I think that's a mistake. I think allowing in America in particular billionaires

wild innovation, wild risk-taking is good, but then on the backside of that, there should be a strong expectation. And I think role models help a lot. You know, Warren Buffett, in a very different industry, very different skill set, you know, he's always been a role model.

wild innovation, wild risk-taking is good, but then on the backside of that, there should be a strong expectation. And I think role models help a lot. You know, Warren Buffett, in a very different industry, very different skill set, you know, he's always been a role model.

And was the one who, even when I was still building the fortune, said, okay, your mom is right, you know, and here's some books you should you know, Carnegie Gospel of Wealth, the history of what Rockefeller did, you know, because this will be an important, as important a measure of your impact as making the money.

And was the one who, even when I was still building the fortune, said, okay, your mom is right, you know, and here's some books you should you know, Carnegie Gospel of Wealth, the history of what Rockefeller did, you know, because this will be an important, as important a measure of your impact as making the money.

Yeah, I had a very long and actually very impressive meeting dinner in terms of he asked good questions. You know, I talked about over 10 million people are alive because of U.S. generosity with HIV medicines, going back to President Bush in 2003. And, you know, I encourage him to keep that as a priority and to accelerate innovation.